100 Year Thinkers, Ep. 5 | Chris Mayer & Robert Hagstrom on Why Safe Stocks Have Become Dangerous

Matt Zeigler and I had the privilege of hosting Robert Hagstrom (The Warren Buffett Way) and Chris Mayer (100 Baggers) for a special 100-Year Thinkers Edition of the Excess Returns Podcast.Two legendary investors and authors. One hour packed with timeless wisdom on long-term thinking and wealth creation. This is the conversation we’ve been wanting to have—and we think you’ll find it as valuable as we did.Available now on Excess Returns Podcast and Talking Billions. 🎧I’m excited to share this episode with you—it’s reposted here with permission and blessing from both Matt and Jack. Don’t miss it! And follow their work, links below.The 100 Year Thinkers: Long-Term Compounding in a Short-Term WorldChris’ New Bookhttps://shop.generalsemantics.org/pro...Robert’s Book: Investing: The Last Liberal Arthttps://www.amazon.com/Investing-Libe...In this episode of Excess Returns, Matt Zeigler and Bogumil Baranowski continue their conversation with Robert Hagstrom and Chris Mayer, diving deeper into general semantics and what it means for investors navigating AI enthusiasm, market volatility, benchmark obsession, and the gamification of markets. From Warren Buffett’s cathedral versus casino metaphor to the risks hiding in so-called “safe” consumer staples stocks, this discussion explores how language, expectations, and mistaken certainty shape investment decisions. If you want to think more clearly about markets, technology, valuation, and your own reactions as an investor, this episode offers a powerful mental framework.Topics Covered* What general semantics is and how language influences how investors think* IFD disease idealism frustration demoralization and how unrealistic expectations impact markets* AI hype, capital spending, and the prisoner’s dilemma facing major tech companies* Warren Buffett’s cathedral versus casino metaphor and what it means for investors today* Why beating the S and P 500 may not be the right benchmark for success* The gamification of markets, retail trading growth, and the shift from long-term investing to speculation* Terminal value risk in software stocks amid AI disruption* Why low volatility “warm fuzzy” stocks like consumer staples may be more dangerous than they appear* Expectations investing, confidence versus overconfidence, and avoiding mistaken certainty* The map is not the territory and how to avoid confusing models with reality* Everything is connected to everything else markets as biological systems rather than mechanical systems* Delayed gratification, compounding, and why wealth is built later in the investment journeyPodcast Program – Disclosure StatementBlue Infinitas Capital, LLC is a registered investment adviser and the opinions expressed by the Firm’s employees and podcast guests on this show are their own and do not reflect the opinions of Blue Infinitas Capital, LLC. All statements and opinions expressed are based upon information considered reliable although it should not be relied upon as such. Any statements or opinions are subject to change without notice.Information presented is for educational purposes only and does not intend to make an offer or solicitation for the sale or purchase of any specific securities, investments, or investment strategies. Investments involve risk and unless otherwise stated, are not guaranteed.Information expressed does not take into account your specific situation or objectives, and is not intended as recommendations appropriate for any individual. Listeners are encouraged to seek advice from a qualified tax, legal, or investment adviser to determine whether any information presented may be suitable for their specific situation. Past performance is not indicative of future performance.