#1 Wandering in the Desert

Having kids seems very unappealing to Zak. He visits his therapist and some friends to begin to untangle his indecision. Meanwhile, Shira, Zak's wife, explains why she wants to be a mom. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices