#026 -- Progress or Performance? A Feminist and a Believer Talk Gender in the Church

Mitch is out, so Juliet and Ashton are flying solo and diving straight into one of the deepest fault lines in Mormon culture: gender and power.

Juliet, a feminist who has left the church, and Ashton, an active Elders Quorum President, ask each other honest, uncomfortable questions about priesthood ordination, spiritual worth, what "wife material" really meant growing up, and whether incremental progress inside a flawed system is meaningful, or just a really small band-aid.

No gotcha questions. Just two people trying to understand each other across a wide spectrum.

Topics covered: the ebb and flow of women's roles throughout church history, whether gender equality is possible without ordination, the "separate but equal" problem, and what it actually feels like to consider speaking up from inside the institution.

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