007 | “Mess and Mental Health - The Hidden Shame of Clutter” with my friends, The Pahl Sisters, Decluttering Experts

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In this episode of the Relate Great podcast, host Jonathan Sherman is joined by Chelsea Paul and Karissa Pahl from All of You Services, a cleaning company that goes beyond traditional cleaning to address mental health struggles. Jonathan discovered Chelsea through a heartfelt social media post highlighting the connection between depression and overwhelming mess. Chelsea and Karissa share their approach to helping clients declutter and deep clean their homes without judgment, emphasizing the therapeutic benefits of a tidy space. They discuss the emotional and relational impacts of living in disorganized environments, their personal connection to mental health issues like ADHD, and their unique teamwork dynamics. The episode concludes with practical advice for listeners feeling overwhelmed by clutter.

00:00 Introduction to Chelsea's Post on Depression and Messiness

02:44 Mental Health and Cleaning: A Deeper Connection

03:29 Client Experiences and Vulnerability

06:12 The Process of Decluttering and Organizing

08:58 Challenges and Boundaries in Cleaning 10:42 The Emotional Impact of a Clean Space

21:16 The Sisters' Journey into Cleaning

25:13 Hyper-Focused and Satisfied

26:08 Family Therapist Insights

26:23 Navigating Family Business Dynamics

27:24 Communication Challenges and Strategies

31:50 Impact of Home Organization on Relationships

40:13 Tips for Listeners: Cleaning and Mindset Hacks

44:07 Final Thoughts and Contact Information

Referenced Resources:

Original post with pics

Website: All of You Services

Facebook: facebook.com/allofyouservices

Episode Page: RelateGREAT.net/podcast/007-mess-and-mental-health