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“A big passion was, how do we think through care? Improvement is fundamentally like a first-order AI problem, not just how to make it easier to do clinical care of today…but how do you make new types of things possible?…If we dig really deep into what’s happening: Why? Why is it caught at this time? Why do we see it in this way? And I think latent into every one of these problems is a frontier AI problem…Through everything—trials and evidence—I think there’s the same type of dynamism we see like in general software, and this kind of pace of change / of improvement that we feel in other parts of AI. Bringing that type of pace to health is the mission of my career, and I’m excited to work on it.”

In this episode, we sit down with Adam Yala, Assistant Professor at UC Berkeley and UCSF and co-founder of Voio, to explore how AI is reshaping the future of healthcare. Adam walks through his path from research to building real-world systems, and why computational health is emerging as its own distinct field rather than just an application of AI.

We dive into what it actually takes to build in this space, from understanding clinical complexity to navigating challenges like data access and compute. Adam also shares how his experience across academia and startups has shifted his perspective on speed, innovation, and creating meaningful impact.

Finally, he offers advice for students and aspiring data scientists, emphasizing the importance of adaptability, curiosity, and focusing on the problems you want to solve in a world where technology is constantly evolving.

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“I think we had this feeling that there’s so many students that don’t make it to calculus, and that in the field of data science and the STEM field itself, we really have a gap to fill because we’re missing all of that knowledge and expertise that those students that don’t ever get through calculus would really bring to the field.”

In this episode, we speak with Mikahl Banwarth-Kuhn (MBK), Assistant Professor of Mathematics at Cal State East Bay, about reimagining the traditional calculus pathways for today’s data science students. MBK helped develop a new course sequence, Math for Data Science, designed to remove barriers that often prevent students from reaching calculus. She discusses the motivation behind the course and whether traditional pen-and-paper calculus sequences still serve data science students today. MBK advocates for a more intuitive, application-driven approach to help students more deeply understand concepts like derivatives, optimization, and differential equations.

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“When you go out and talk to other people, you realize that you become the opposite of being siloed. You really start to realize that you might have been in an echo chamber when you were talking amongst your own colleagues, and when you start to hear other people, you go, Oh, there’s more that I could understand.”

Today, we speak with Rachel Saidi, Professor in the Math, Statistics, and Data Science Department and Data Science Program Director at Montgomery College, a two-year college outside Washington, DC. Rachel shares her path from teaching math to statistics to data science, and what it’s like to scale a data science program in the community college setting, with the goal of catering to students of all ages and experiences. She tackles holistic data science education, combining curriculum, experiential learning, speaker series, and more, while also acknowledging difficulties with constraints like faculty capacity and transfer articulation with four-year universities. Finally, she reflects on how professional organizations can help educators find community and stay on top of best practices, and offers advice to educators and learners on how to tackle data science teaching and learning today.

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“I think of data as being the base of the scientific pyramid that we have. You literally can’t do science if you don’t have data—and good data. If your data is bad, then your science is going to be bad. So really, at the heart of science and research is having good data that people can find, and people can access and use.”

In this week’s episode, we speak with Tasha Marie Snow, a cryosphere researcher who works at the intersection of Earth system science, data science, cloud computing, and open science. Snow is a Co-Founder and Lead Scientist for the CryoCloud cloud-computing community and platform, and works at both NASA and the University of Maryland. She touches on how her work with NASA satellite data, such as ICESat-2 data, focuses on making large, complex datasets more accessible and usable for researchers. She also discusses her role in supporting geoscience researchers to transition their workflows to the cloud via CryoCloud within JupyterHub, as well as the educational benefits of shared computing environments.

Listen to Tasha’s talk from JupyterCon in November here, and view the interactive Antarctica map notebook Eric mentioned here!

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“The goal of the students is not to learn how JupyterHub works. The goal is to learn what’s the topic of the course. So we want to make it as easy as possible to get into an environment where they can learn what they’re actually there to learn, and not get in their way with the tools that they’re supposed to be using.”

Welcome to season 11 of the podcast! To kick off the new season, we interviewed Min Ragan-Kelley, Senior Open Infrastructure Architect at Berkeley Institute for Data Science (BIDS) and a founding member of JupyterHub. Min discusses the origin story of JupyterHub and how it evolved into the scalable platform that students and researchers alike utilize daily, reflecting on key design decisions that have shaped the platform into what it is today. He describes the importance of the platform to “get out of the way” of students in order to best aid in learning how to operate within a computing environment. Finally, Min touches on his passion for open source projects and what he hopes to come of it in relation to data science education.

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“From my own experience, you don’t need to really be the perfect data scientist to do the work. I think, especially at Berkeley, there’s a lot of pressure to know everything. That’s not necessarily the case…For a lot of the types of work that I do and in my industry, you don’t actually need to have or be the most technical person…The thing that’s actually more important, and if you want to get hired in politics or in political work is actually having domain knowledge.” —Ian Castro

In the last episode of the season, as always, we sit down with some recent Data Science graduates from UC Berkeley. Today, we talked with Ian Castro, Political Database Manager at Equis Research and former DATA 8 course staff member, who talked about how teaching and building foundational data science courses shaped his commitment to tackling issues like housing, inequality, and political representation. We also talked with Lydia Sidhom, Data Reporter at The Washington Post, who reflected on how her experiences with DATA 8 and working for the Daily Cal helped pull her towards data journalism. Together, Ian and Lydia show how recent graduates are using data to analyze and explain the world!

“I think being a journalist—especially a data journalist—requires you to be kind of like a mini expert on every story that you do. So being curious about many different fields and diving into different kinds of data is really a big plus.” —Lydia Sidhom

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“I think the biggest thing I would say is just involve students in real work as early as possible. I think sometimes we have in our mind, oh, we cannot do research with students until they’re advanced in their mathematical studies, but I’ve actually found this isn’t true. I think if there’s a compelling project and students are excited about it, they are really great at learning the tools that they need to do it, and that’s something we as faculty can also help with. Students are able to make really meaningful contributions early in their careers. In terms of teaching or mentoring, I think it’s just about teaching thinking, not tools.” —Kamila Larripa

In this episode, we speak with Kamila Larripa, Associate Professor of Mathematics and Data Science Program Lead at Cal Poly Humboldt, along with her former students John Gerving and Jonathan Juarez. Kamila shares about the development of Humboldt’s new Data Science major and its "data for good” mission, as well as her California Education Learning Lab project, which builds a cross-campus community of practice, fosters data literacy, and bring climate justice modules into introductory science courses for students. Students John and Jonathan reflect on their undergraduate research experiences, highlighting how real-world data projects helped identify their interests and build collaboration skills.

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“The driving framework of how I think about equity in my classroom is from a paper by Rochelle Gutiérrez, who is a fairly predominant math educator, about equity being of these two axes: the dominant and the critical. It has four main components—access and achievement—which form the dominant axes, and identity and power, which form the critical axes. I think of these four ideas as guiding the way that I think of equity across every classroom I design.”

In this episode, we speak with Allison Theobold, Assistant Professor of Statistics at Cal Poly SLO. Allison shares her journey from economics to statistics and data science education, and explore her research on equitable pedagogy. She discusses frameworks for equity and how these inform her teaching practices, as well as how her own experiences as a learner in the age of AI help to inform her own teaching.

“For me, a lot of this work comes from me studying and reflecting on how my pedagogy impacts who might be successful in my class, and what types of students may or may not be successful. How can I broaden that more, in terms of assessment, classroom spaces, and access to resources, whether it’s through their peers, me, or outside of class. So thinking about and reflecting on ways in which the way I’m teaching might not be as favorable for some students as opposed to others.”