• Deathride

  • Hitler vs. Stalin: The Eastern Front, 1941-1945
  • De: John Mosier
  • Narrado por: Michael Prichard
  • Duración: 12 h y 50 m
  • 4.0 out of 5 stars (171 calificaciones)

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John Mosier presents a revisionist retelling of the war on the Eastern Front. Although the Eastern Front was the biggest and most important theater in World War II, it is not well known in the United States, as no American troops participated in the fighting. Yet historians agree that this is where the decisive battles of the war were fought.

The conventional wisdom about the Eastern Front is that Hitler was mad to think he could defeat the USSR, because of its vast size and population, and that the Battle of Stalingrad marked the turning point of the war. Neither statement is accurate, says Mosier; Hitler came very close to winning outright.

Mosier's history of the Eastern Front will generate considerable controversy, both because of his unconventional arguments and because he criticizes historians who have accepted Soviet facts and interpretations. Mosier argues that Soviet accounts are utterly untrustworthy and that accounts relying on them are fantasies. Deathride argues that the war in the East was Hitler's to lose, that Stalin was in grave jeopardy from the outset of the war, and that it was the Allied victories in North Africa and consequent threat to Italy that forced Hitler to change his plans and saved Stalin from near-certain defeat. Stalin's only real triumph was in creating a legend of victory.

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Need more john mosier on audible

Excellent all around - thought provoking- author has many other related books out in paper and electronic book- but really limited audio selections on audible - or anywhere else. Listening to this leaves me wanting more.

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Speaking the un-speakable

This book finally addresses the nagging logical questions that any amateur eastern front historian has been too embarrassed to ask. First – would the fall of Moscow really been the end to Soviet resistance? John Mosier answer is clear, logical and I my opinion correct. The Soviets would not have simply given up if Panzers were parked in the Kremlin. He also correctly asserts that Hitler’s decision to not take Moscow off the march in August/September was the strategically correct one based on the larger economic considerations and military dispositions of the Soviet Armed Forces at the time. He ties the failure to finish off the Soviets at that time was the lack of a strategic bomber in the Luftwaffe. He believes that the possession of such a weapon would have enabled the Germans to destroy the relocated factories in the Urals and any reinforcements being gathered around Moscow or Don/ Volga basin (Stalingrad). He also believes that the lack of this weapon was the reason for the loss of the Battle of Britain and probably the war. If Britain had been knocked out the US would have no realistic location to base a continental invasion.

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too much anti-Russian bias

while no fan of Stalin, who certainly was evil to the core, I still found the author's obvious bias to be too repetitive. He succeeded in making Hitler look like a genius while Stalin was never right. Actually, everything Russian was cast in s negative light at every opportunity

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Very good

What made the experience of listening to Deathride the most enjoyable?

I enjoy most of Mosier's work. I find his analysis of things very compelling and it seems to answer a lot of questions that traditional history leaves unanswered. That said hard core Soviet/Stalin-philes will not like this work. I can say it bothers to answer questions that nobody thought to ask. Its a delicate walk when you are trying to analyze two of the worst human beings in history and Mosier does a pretty good job. Traditional historians don't really love Mosier and I can only speculate as to why, he does attempt to challenge the prevailing theses about the Eastern Front, and the lying and double-talk involved.

Most tend to focus on Hitler's blunders but, I can cite several specifics Mosier articulates that are generally ignored by East Front historians:

1. Soviet falsification of production numbers.
2. Inherent weaknesses in Nazi Germany's Military machine.
3. Flaws in German High Command's Strategic thinking.
4. Why Stalingrad? (It was not a symbolic pissing contest of Stalin's namesake city).
5. Hitler was a better strategic thinker than originally given credit for.
6. Stalin's military meddling/blundering was responsible for many thousands of lost Soviet troops.
7. Would the fall of Moscow have won the war with the Soviets? Probably not.
8. The critical impact of Lend-Lease and of British and American equipment transfusions into the Soviet Union.


Mosier does have a tendency to overbeat his facts and thesis, so occasionally it feels more like a sermon, than a historical work, but if you look past this flaw its a compelling work.

Overall it is well worth the listen/read.

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Fascinating history of the war in Russia

Quite dense and academic, yet utterly fascinating. Highly thought provoking. The author presents a persuasive debunking of many of the myths of the Eastern front in WWII.

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Joe Neill

I found this book to be a wonderful insight. and being a military man for 21 years some of the points were very valid indeed. This book will make you think and will place so much 'coffee table' history in the bin. I would highly recommend it to any student of history looking for a strategic view point of the war in the east. Its also a great read. Well do, would recommend it to anyone.

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A Great well researched book

If you could sum up Deathride in three words, what would they be?

Definitively adept book that covers the period 1941 to 1945

What did you like best about this story?

There is little left to the imagination. Mosier shows comparisons for and against strategies deployed by both Stalin and Hitler.

Any additional comments?

Mosier is great at showing both leaders attempt to get the open hand on each other politically as well as on the battlefield.

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Deconstructing the Big Lie

As empires with a vested interest in controlling history fall, its becoming more and more obvious that the WW2 we is a lie. And no government has lied more than the Soviet Union. Through assiduously source data Mosier exposed life in the Soviet Union as a parallel reality, where "the future is always known, but the past is constantly changing." But this parallel reality existed only in fabricated statistics, false testimonies extracted under torture, and the mind of Joseph Stalin. As the abyssal depths of Stalinist moral bankruptcy were exposed to the world with the collapse of the decrepit Soviet Union and the opening of its archives at the end of the 20th century, it has become necessary to completely reevaluate the Soviet Union, and especially its war with Germany.

Today, as Russia wages war on Ukraine, Stalin's mythos has evolved into the de facto civic religion of Russia. It is invoked more than ever as a justification for everything from quashing domestic dissent to kidnapping children to the conquest of lost provinces. Deathride is essential to understanding Stalin's parallel reality, and the deconstruction of his myth may be the only path to freedom for the Russian people.

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Amazing, a real eye opener

For it's length best east front book I've read. Wish more historians did their research

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Close up LOOK at the EASTERN front in WW2 3 STARS

PLOT: BREAKDOWN of the battles on the EASTERN front of World War 2.

This gives us very "detailed" breakdown of the Battles on the EASTERN FRONT in WW2 including "numbers" of soldiers, weapons and ideology. You really "have" to be interested in this battle area to listen to the whole thing. I like the details but this is very long and even at times tedious. But the interesting DECEIT of the actual breakdown and how very well both Stalin and Hitler "manipulated" the actual numbers of soldiers and weapons for propaganda purposes. And the Mindset of both Hitler and Stalin are both fascinating. The reader is good but this book is way too long. I give it 3 stars for a close up look of the EASTERN front in World War 2 and also we can see how the influx of American weapons and trucks helped change the Russian ability to fight the Germans.

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