SnapShot: Had to Get out of My Own Way, Making Relationships That Matter

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What if the measure of success isn’t the sale but the person across the table? We open up about a hard pivot from product-first tactics to people-first presence, sharing how a therapist’s straight talk, a return to Alaska’s handshake culture, and three powerful encounters reoriented our work and our lives.

First, we relive our son’s 0% survival odds and months in a Portland NICU—and the goosebump moment years later when a coworker revealed his mom was Nurse Nancy, the one who dressed our boy in his first outfit on Easter. That full-circle connection reminds us how stories stitch time together when we’re brave enough to tell them. Next, we revisit a fishing trip that grew into a steady friendship with someone old enough to be a father figure, proof that patience, honesty, and small check-ins can become a real safety net. Finally, over coffee, a business contact shares the loss of his son to carbon monoxide and the weight of the unanswerable questions that followed. We don’t fix it. We witness it. And in that space, a different kind of value appears.

Across these moments we explore reframing sales as service, building relationships without tidy metrics, and trusting that presence beats pressure. Alaska’s slower pace and deeper courtesy help us remember who we’re called to be: people who answer the phone, connect the dots, and make time for what matters. If you’ve ever felt stuck chasing numbers or wondering whether your work truly helps, this story offers a grounded path forward—see the human first, and let outcomes grow from trust.

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