Superbad

In this episode of Movie Wars, we tackle one of the most divisive comedies in modern cinema: Superbad. Fresh off recording our Apocalypse Now episode, we couldn't be shifting gears harder as we dive into Seth Rogen and Evan Goldberg's 2007 high school comedy that many consider the gold standard for post-80s comedies.

The debate gets heated as our hosts - Kyle, Seth, and Marianna - discover they're wildly split on this film. While Seth and Marianna guffaw through every scene (Marianna literally "scream-laughing at the TV"), Kyle doesn't crack a smile for 39 minutes and questions whether the raunch overshadows the heart. We dig deep into whether the lead performances from Jonah Hill and Michael Cera hold up, why Christopher Mintz-Plasse's McLovin is an absolute diamond in the rough, and how Bill Hader and Seth Rogen as incompetent cops might be the film's secret weapon.

We explore the film's place in comedy history, comparing it to everything from This Is the End to Fletch and Naked Gun. Is Superbad a masterpiece of authentic teenage awkwardness, or does it live too long in raunch-for-raunch's-sake territory? We dissect the period blood scene that still shocks on rewatch, debate whether the female characters (besides Emma Stone) are unbearable by design, and question if Greg Mottola's direction succeeds by simply getting out of the way and letting the comedy breathe.

Whether you're a homeschooled kid experiencing high school vicariously through film, a former head cheerleader who never went to a single party, or a bullied nerd who couldn't be paid to go back to high school - this episode breaks down Superbad from every angle. We cover film history, share our most interesting research factoids (randos), debate our questions, and settle scores in the War Zone with our category-by-category breakdown.

Takeaways:

1. Superbad remains a lightning rod for comedy fans nearly two decades later, with passionate defenders and skeptics in equal measure
2. McLovin, Bill Hader, and Seth Rogen carry significant comedic weight that elevates the film beyond its leads
3. The film's authenticity to teenage desperation resonates differently depending on your actual high school experience
4. Comedy direction is judged on whether it gets out of the way - and the outtakes you don't pick matter as much as the ones you do
5. Some viewers find the raunch eventually gives way to genuine heart; others feel cooked before it arrives
6. Christopher Mintz-Plasse being a drama student who couldn't even get cast in dramas is the ultimate underdog revenge story
7. The period blood scene still hits like a freight truck on rewatch
8. Superbad may not be as memorable or quotable as classics like Fletch or Naked Gun, but it captures a specific moment in comedy evolution

Films/Creators Mentioned:

1. Seth Rogen & Evan Goldberg (writers/producers)
2. Greg Mottola (director)
3. Jonah Hill, Michael Cera, Christopher Mintz-Plasse, Bill Hader, Emma Stone
4. This Is the End, Pineapple Express, Project...