Organising Chaos, Sparking Belonging

In this episode of The Inclusion Bites Podcast, Joanne Lockwood welcomes Amanda Van Der Heiden to explore what it means to organise chaos and spark belonging. Drawing from both personal and professional experiences, Joanne and Amanda discuss the complexities of fostering inclusion across cultures, industries, and individual perspectives. Amanda unpacks how a sense of belonging encompasses more than just inclusion or diversity policies; it is a lived feeling rooted in being truly seen and valued. The conversation moves through challenges of polarity in today’s world, the subtle art of balancing authenticity and respect, and the importance of understanding others’ communication styles to bridge divides. Joanne brings a rich context in the DEI space to highlight how businesses often overlook the “magic” of belonging, even as they engage with diversity and equity initiatives.

Amanda Van Der Heiden brings over twenty years’ experience as a chaos coordinator and relationship builder, having led global L&D rollouts across companies and continents. Her unique perspective is shaped by a childhood spent navigating two starkly different worlds—Kentucky and New York—with Dutch roots and her own visible difference, piebalism. This experience has endowed Amanda with an innate ability to connect across divides and to build momentum from complexity. A lifelong advocate for people-first solutions, Amanda’s superpower lies in translating complexity into people-centred action that empowers teams and promotes genuine connection. She believes in nurturing cultures where people don’t simply fit in but thrive authentically, sharing actionable frameworks for leaders keen to create spaces of true belonging.

Throughout their discussion, Joanne and Amanda delve into practical techniques for fostering inclusion, from reframing internal dialogue to tailoring learning experiences with autonomy and intent. They challenge listeners to reflect on why they do what they do and to question the organisational habits that shape culture. The episode emphasises the need for transparency, active listening, and continuous self-reflection to unite diverse groups, especially in times of change.

The key takeaway from this episode is the transformative power of consciously organising workplace chaos and nurturing a culture of authentic belonging. By embracing curiosity, embracing difference, and placing people first, leaders and teams can break through the noise and generate meaningful impact. This episode equips listeners with insights to ignite the spark of inclusion and embed belonging into daily action, encouraging them to subscribe and share their own stories as part of the wider Inclusion Bites community.