Perseverance: She shares her personal experiences with layoffs, career uncertainty, anxiety, and leadership failures.

Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Heather R. Younger. CEO, workplace culture expert, author, and founder of a major employee engagement consultancy—joins Rushion McDonald to discuss leadership, employee empowerment, navigating fear, and self‑leadership in modern workplaces. She shares her personal experiences with layoffs, career uncertainty, anxiety, and leadership failures—and how these experiences shaped her mission to be “the voice for the voiceless” in organizational culture. They explore the emotional realities of layoffs vs. terminations, how employees can take control of their professional well‑being, and Heather’s framework for identifying and overcoming fear. PURPOSE OF THE INTERVIEW 1. To introduce Heather’s work and mission She champions active listening, employee empowerment, and self‑leadership after personally reading 30,000+ employee surveys and leading 100+ focus groups. 2. To teach listeners how to navigate workplace uncertainty She provides strategies for dealing with anxiety, job insecurity, change, and inconsistent leadership climates. 3. To share an empowering message about self‑leadership Central idea: No one is coming to save you. You must lead yourself first. 4. To explore how fear holds people back professionally She outlines how fear affects decision‑making, action-taking, and confidence. KEY TAKEAWAYS 1. Why She Does This Work She witnessed firsthand how mergers, layoffs, and poor communication harm employees.After being laid off with 200+ others, she realized she needed to become the “voice of reason” who turns employee concerns into actionable insights for leaders. 2. Layoff vs. Termination — Emotional Differences Layoffs: painful but less shame; not personal fault.Termination: usually involves personal accountability, and often carries more shame.Both create a feeling of powerlessness, but each requires emotional processing and reframing. 3. No One Is Coming To Save You Employees must take responsibility for: Their growthTheir mental healthTheir career progressionTheir emotional well‑being HR cannot save you, Heather says—they play a dual role and cannot be personal rescuers. 4. Managing Workplace Anxiety Key strategies include: Nightly reflection → Write down what went well and what you controlled.Reframing → Turning irrational fears into rational thoughts.Breathing, sunlight, walking, self‑care → Especially for anxiety.Intentional mindset‑switching → Choosing thoughts that serve you. 5. The Five Ways Fear Holds You Back Professionally Heather identifies several fear patterns: 1. Fear of Feedback Avoiding action because you’re afraid of what others may say. 2. Fear of Retribution / Getting in Trouble Hesitating to take risks or initiative. 3. Fear of Speaking Up Not challenging authority or expressing dissenting opinions due to lack of psychological safety. 4. Fear Rooted in Family / Cultural Conditioning Inherited fear patterns from parents, grandparents, or trauma. 5. Fear of Regret / Non‑Action She teaches a powerful question: “What will I regret the longest—doing the thing or not doing the thing?” This question accelerates decision‑making and breaks the paralysis of fear. 6. Take Ownership of Your Life — Self‑Leadership Become the Chief Iterator of Your Life → Continue refining yourself like a living prototype.Accept mistakes as part of growth.Avoid perfectionism; aim for continuous improvement. 7. Practical Daily Habits Prepare mentally each night.Hydrate, sleep well, move your body.Train yourself to take small positive actions daily. NOTABLE QUOTES FROM THE INTERVIEW On Self‑Leadership “Ain’t nobody coming to save me. And in the workplace, no one’s coming to save you.” On Fear “Feedback is a gift—even if it hurts.” “We sit around waiting for green lights, access, invitations… It’s not coming. We need to seize it.” “What is the thing you will regret the longest—doing it or not doing it?” On Navigating Change “You get to fight tooth and nail for your own mental space.” On Personal Growth “See yourself as a work in progress—a constant iteration.” On Workplace Emotions “With layoffs, you didn’t have a hand in it. With termination, there’s more shame.” #SHMS #STRAW #BESTSupport the show: https://www.steveharveyfm.com/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.