Ep13: Treating Adults Like Children, Part 2 — Personal Conscience, Discernment, and Spiritual Adulthood
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Why is thinking for yourself such a big deal in spiritual maturity?
This is Part 2 of our conversation on why churches sometimes create dependency instead of discernment, and what it actually looks like to grow up spiritually.
In this episode of Unhinged: Separating Faith from Fiction, Michele Kus and Martin Trench explore personal conscience, inner conviction, and why real Christian maturity isn’t about following rigid rules or groupthink, but learning how to discern, choose, and live from the inside out.
We talk about why Jesus describes the path that leads to life as narrow — not because it’s restrictive, but because it’s custom-made for each person. Faith was never meant to be one-size-fits-all.
In this episode, we cover:
- Why churches often teach WHAT to think instead of HOW to think
- The role of personal conscience in Christian decision-making
- Why fear-based and shame-based teaching undermines spiritual maturity
- Inner conviction vs. external rules
- Becoming un-indoctrinated, living in freedom, and guarding your heart
- What it actually means to grow into spiritual adulthood
Drawing from scripture, lived experience, and wisdom from voices like Meister Eckhart, this episode invites you to stop outsourcing your discernment and begin trusting the relationship God has with you.
“To be born again is not to become a different person, but to become the person God always intended you to be.”
If you haven’t listened to Part 1 yet, start here: Ep12: Treating Adults Like Children, Part 1
This episode completes the conversation and points toward a healthier, more mature way forward.
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Chapters:
00:00 Welcome to Unhinged: Separating Faith from Fiction
03:42 The Missing Adult Stage of Spiritual Growth
06:27 “Narrow Is the Path” — It’s Custom-Made
09:59 We’ve Designed Churches as One-Size-Fits-All
11:58 Groupthink and the Fear of Other Opinions
14:59 “The Way He Should Go” — Proverbs 22:6
18:50 Inner World Conviction Over Outer World Rules
21:18 Undoctrination, Fear, Rules, and Waking Up
30:43 This Is the Core Issue
31:46 Freedom, Discernment, and Living Your Own Life
33:16 Outtakes & Unhinged Moments