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The Contrarian Investor Podcast

By: Nathaniel E. Baker
  • Summary

  • The Contrarian Investor podcast gives voice to those who challenge a prevailing narrative in financial markets. Each episode features an interview with a hedge fund manager, investor, economist or other market participant. The goal is to educate all listeners with an interest in asset allocation and ultimately to provide actionable ideas to the institutional investor community.
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Episodes
  • US Economy Too Strong for Fed, Where to Invest Now: Leo Schmidt, River Eddy Capital
    Jun 14 2024

    Leo Schmidt, founder of family office River Eddy Capital, rejoins the podcast to discuss his views on economy, markets, and where to invest capital in what may be a 'stagflation lite' environment.

    This podcast episode was recorded on Friday, June 7, 2024 and made available to premium subscribers the following Monday. Visit the Substack or Supercast for more information about premium subscriptions.

    Content Highlights
    • "Labor markets are way too hot." There will be "no landing" (1:48);
    • Non-farm payrolls came out much stronger than anticipated. What this says about the labor market (4:59);
    • 'Stagflation lite' (8:31);
    • Our views of credit creation are outdated. The shadow banking system has replaced commercial banks as the primary source of credit. What this means (11:59);
    • The Federal Reserve probably needs to cut rates. Could they? Probably not -- this year (22:21);
    • What does an investor do now? First up: Stocks that are AI/Nvidia (NVDA) plays. Celestica (CLS), Flex (FLEX), Sanmina (SANM), Jabil (JBL) (27:51);
    • Pharma spin-outs: Haleon (HLN), Kenvue (KVUE), Organon (OGN), Viatris (VTRS) (31:54);
    • Dollar stores, especially Dollar Tree (DLTR), are poised to outperform once there is an economic slowdown (39:07);
    • The bullish case for pipeline companies (46:59).
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    50 mins
  • Stock Market Expectations Getting Ahead of Economic Realities: Bob Elliott, Unlimited
    Jun 4 2024
    Bob Elliott of Unlimited rejoins the podcast to discuss his view that stock markets are pricing in a lot of optimism that may not be based on economic realities... This podcast episode was recorded on Tuesday, May 28, 2024 and made available to premium subscribers the following day. To become a premium subscriber, visit our Substack.

    Content Highlights
    • Stock markets are pricing in a lot of optimism. Just how unrealistic is that? (1:19);
    • What is there to indicate the economy could slow this year or even next? (4:34);
    • A recession may be years away rather than months under current conditions. But conditions, as we know, can change quickly... (8:58);
    • There is a precedence to interest rates going up dramatically without it causing an immediate and dramatic entrenchment in economic growth (11:52);
    • Tech stocks might be overvalued but comparisons to the dot-com bubble are unfair and inaccurate -- and may preclude a spectacular bust (16:10);
    • Today's economic expansion is income-driven. Not a result of credit expansion (18:13);
    • What kinds of indicators should investors study to spot a slowdown in this particular type of economic activity? (30:45);
    • Regional banks are for the most part fairly priced at present... (35:50).
    More Information on the Guest
    • Website: UnlimitedFunds.com;
    • Twitter: @BoBEUnlimited;
    • YouTube: @BobEUnlimited.
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    44 mins
  • The Specter of Stagflation Still Looms: Ayesha Tariq
    May 13 2024

    Ayesha Tariq, founder of Macro Visor, rejoins the podcast to discuss her views on the economy, markets, and where investors should look for opportunities.

    This episode was recorded on Tuesday, May 7 and made available to premium subscribers that same day. Become a premium subscriber.

    Content Highlights:
    • The macro set-up and why people are talking about stagflation (1:56);
    • The K-shaped economy and the damage being done (3:31);
    • Fed Chair Jerome Powell claims there's no stag and no flation. Is he wrong? (It wouldn't be the first time) (8:50);
    • Faced with this backdrop, what does one do as an investor? (13:03);
    • China: There are still reasons to worry, even though the bleeding from the property market has abated a bit... (15:58);
    • India: long term growth story. Also copper, oil, and Japan (17:11);
    • The guest's favorite areas for opportunity right now: UK and India (21:07);
    • A long-term concern is the fiscal situation in the US (22:00).
    For more about the guest, visit her firm's website MacroVisor.com or follow her on Twitter/X.
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    27 mins

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The Best Financial Podcasts Going

As someone always trying to think 2 steps ahead and often against the herd as part of my job I’ve found this podcast a tremendous resource.

Mr. Baker’s thoughtful questions and terrific guests cover a variety of topics, all of them useful to investors.

I never know what will be covered but I always come away learning something, often actionable.

His latest podcast was arguably the best one yet! The Concorde example given by the guest I hope to remember for years, I’ve already sent it to several friends and colleagues.

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