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In this podcast episode, Dr. Michael Lenz introduces Kelly Mahler, an occupational therapist who discusses the often overlooked aspect of our sensory experiences: interoception. Kelly explains interoception as the body's ability to perceive its internal state, which affects emotions, hunger, pain, and more. She shares insights into how recognizing and fostering interoception can improve life quality, reduce distress, and aid in managing chronic conditions like fibromyalgia. The conversation also covers the challenges of those with interoceptive differences, particularly in the neurodivergent community, and the importance of personalized approaches to therapy. Kelly and Dr. Lenz also touch on the scientific backing of interoception and its relevance in both understanding oneself and navigating healthcare interactions more effectively.

00:00 Welcome to the Podcast: Introducing Occupational Therapy and Interoception
00:47 Meet the Host: Dr. Michael Lens's Background and Disclaimer
01:13 Introducing Kelly Mahler: The Occupational Therapist's Journey
01:33 Understanding Occupational Therapy and Sensory Processing
02:44 Diving Deep into Our Senses: Beyond the Basic Five
04:34 Exploring Interoception: The Internal Sense
05:08 Kelly's Personal and Professional Discovery of Interoception
05:57 The Impact of Interoception Differences on Daily Life
13:39 Investigating the Causes of Interoception Differences
16:39 The Real-life Consequences of Interoception Differences
22:12 Improving Interoception: Strategies and Mindfulness
25:04 Raising Interoception Awareness: Education and Advocacy
31:27 Final Thoughts and Resources for Interoception

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A Fibromyalgia Starter Pack, which is a great companion to the book Conquering Your Fibromyalgia, is now available. Dr. Michael Lenz practices general pediatrics and internal medicine primary care, seeing patients from infants through adults. In addition, he also will see patients with fibromyalgia and related problems and patients interested in lifestyle medicine and clinical lipidology. To learn more, go to ConquringYourFibromyalgia.com. Remember that while Dr. Lenz is a medical doctor, he is not your doctor. All of your signs and symptoms should be discussed with your own physician. He aims to weave the best of conventional medicine with lifestyle medicine to help people with chronic health conditions live their best lives possible. Dr. Lenz hopes that the podcast, book, blog, and website serve as a trusted resource and starting point on your journey of learning to live better with fibromyalgia and related illnesses.

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This episode of the podcast features a conversation with Dr. Stacy Greeter, a physician who shares her personal experience with autism, ADHD, and fibromyalgia. Hosted by Dr. Michael Lenz, they delve into the challenges and encouragements for individuals living with these conditions and their loved ones. Dr. Greeter's unique perspective as both a clinician and a patient offers insights into the importance of understanding, support, and the right medical care. She discusses her diagnosis process and the importance of self-care routines. Additionally, the episode explores the difficulties neurodivergent individuals face in the healthcare system and provides advice for clinicians on improving care. Encouragement is offered to those living with fibromyalgia and neurodivergent conditions, emphasizing the importance of self-compassion and understanding from loved ones and healthcare professionals.

00:00 Introduction to the Conversation with Dr. Stacy Greeter
01:01 Dr. Greeter's Personal Journey with Fibromyalgia and Vaccination
03:29 Navigating the Diagnosis: Speed and Privilege
06:18 Understanding Fibromyalgia: Symptoms, Diagnosis, and Treatment
07:04 Exploring the Intersection of Autism, ADHD, and Fibromyalgia
14:22 The Diagnostic Journey and Recognizing Neurodiversity
18:26 Challenges and Insights from an Autistic Psychiatrist
24:33 Empowering Neurodivergent Individuals and Clinicians
30:51 Closing Thoughts and Encouragement

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A Fibromyalgia Starter Pack, which is a great companion to the book Conquering Your Fibromyalgia, is now available. Dr. Michael Lenz practices general pediatrics and internal medicine primary care, seeing patients from infants through adults. In addition, he also will see patients with fibromyalgia and related problems and patients interested in lifestyle medicine and clinical lipidology. To learn more, go to ConquringYourFibromyalgia.com. Remember that while Dr. Lenz is a medical doctor, he is not your doctor. All of your signs and symptoms should be discussed with your own physician. He aims to weave the best of conventional medicine with lifestyle medicine to help people with chronic health conditions live their best lives possible. Dr. Lenz hopes that the podcast, book, blog, and website serve as a trusted resource and starting point on your journey of learning to live better with fibromyalgia and related illnesses.

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Navigating Medical Fields as Both Doctor and Patient: Perspectives on Autism, ADHD, and Fibromyalgia

This podcast episode features a conversation with Dr. Stacy Greeter, a psychiatrist who discusses her experiences being diagnosed with autism, fibromyalgia, and ADHD. Hosted by Dr. Michael Lenz, the discussion covers topics like diagnosing autism in adults, the importance of accurate diagnosis, the connection between chronic pain and medical conditions, and the need for compassion within the medical profession. Dr. Greeter shares insights into her personal journey, from her path into psychiatry to identifying as autistic and ADHD later in life, highlighting the challenges and misconceptions around these conditions. The episode emphasizes the significance of diagnosis for understanding and self-compassion, challenges stereotypes about autism and ADHD, and advocates for patient-centric and informed medical practices.

00:00 Introduction to the Conversation with Dr. Stacy Greeter
00:06 Exploring Autism, ADHD, and Fibromyalgia with Dr. Greeter
00:37 Dr. Michael Lenz: Background and Approach to Medicine
01:14 Dr. Stacy Greeter's Journey into Psychiatry
02:14 The Significance of an Accurate Diagnosis
03:20 Navigating the Medical Field as Both Doctor and Patient
19:55 Understanding and Diagnosing Autism in Adults
24:27 The Impact of an Autism Diagnosis
32:54 Concluding Thoughts and Encouragement

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A Fibromyalgia Starter Pack, which is a great companion to the book Conquering Your Fibromyalgia, is now available. Dr. Michael Lenz practices general pediatrics and internal medicine primary care, seeing patients from infants through adults. In addition, he also will see patients with fibromyalgia and related problems and patients interested in lifestyle medicine and clinical lipidology. To learn more, go to ConquringYourFibromyalgia.com. Remember that while Dr. Lenz is a medical doctor, he is not your doctor. All of your signs and symptoms should be discussed with your own physician. He aims to weave the best of conventional medicine with lifestyle medicine to help people with chronic health conditions live their best lives possible. Dr. Lenz hopes that the podcast, book, blog, and website serve as a trusted resource and starting point on your journey of learning to live better with fibromyalgia and related illnesses.