• Those We Thought We Knew

  • By: David Joy
  • Narrated by: MacLeod Andrews
  • Length: 9 hrs and 53 mins
  • 4.8 out of 5 stars (64 ratings)

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Those We Thought We Knew

By: David Joy
Narrated by: MacLeod Andrews
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Publisher's summary

Winner of the 2023 Willie Morris Award for Southern Fiction

Winner of the 2023 Thomas Wolfe Memorial Literary Award

One of Vanity Fair’s Favorite Books of 2023

“A beautifully fearless contemplation.”–S. A. Cosby

From award-winning writer David Joy comes a searing new novel about the cracks that form in a small North Carolina community and the evils that unfurl from its center.

Toya Gardner, a young Black artist from Atlanta, has returned to her ancestral home in the North Carolina mountains to trace her family history and complete her graduate thesis. But when she encounters a still-standing Confederate monument in the heart of town, she sets her sights on something bigger.

Meanwhile, local deputies find a man sleeping in the back of a station wagon and believe him to be nothing more than some slack-jawed drifter. Yet a search of the man’s vehicle reveals that he is a high-ranking member of the Klan, and the uncovering of a notebook filled with local names threatens to turn the mountain on end.

After two horrific crimes split the county apart, every soul must wrestle with deep and unspoken secrets that stretch back for generations. Those We Thought We Knew is an urgent unraveling of the dark underbelly of a community. Richly drawn and bracingly honest, it asks what happens when the people you’ve always known turn out to be monsters, what do you do when everything you ever believed crumbles away?

©2023 David Joy (P)2023 Penguin Audio

Critic reviews

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Atlanta Journal-Constitution’s Best Southern Books of 2023

Garden & Gun’s Best Books for (and About) Southerners of 2023

BookRiot’s 10 Best Appalachian Books of 2023

CrimeReads's Most Anticipated Crime Fiction of Summer 2023

“[David Joy] is a man who sees his homeplace clearly and who writes like his hand was touched by God.”The New York Times

“A refreshing departure…Joy has a knack for heightening intrigue…. He’s like a magician playing a shell game, and it’s an effective way to keep readers on their toes. The book is filled with gorgeous prose, particularly when Joy turns his considerable talents toward descriptions of the natural world.”Atlanta Journal Constitution

“Unflinching and timely…Joy has mastered the high-stakes, page-turning Appalachian-noir style, and through this lens, the preconceived notions of life in the mountains are overturned.”Christian Science Monitor

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Good book

I liked this book - the story & the characters are dynamic and interesting, as they always are with David Joy's writing.
Macleod Andrews narration brings this book and its characters to life in a way that is hard to explain. He could bring depth and profundity to a buzzfeed listicle.

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Best work yet.

As a fan of Joy’s work, I was excited to see what this book held. After finishing it, I’m not just happy, but proud for him having grown in his authorship with the ability to talk about and address many of the subjects brought up in this book, while still holding his own unique style. There are very few books I will reread, especially so soon after completing them but I believe I will be revisiting this one shortly and recommending it to many people along the way.

Additionally, MacLeod Andrews did a phenomenal job with this. One of the best readings I’ve heard from him.

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Excellent listen!

I grew up in the south but this was still eye opening and thought provoking for sure. Highly recommend

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Powerhouse of a Story!

5 stars for this surprising powerhouse of a story by David Joy. This story is told so authentically and with such subtle insight you are drawn in deep before you even realize it. I love the voice in this story of conflict - between race and age and history and the future and awareness and acceptance and forgiveness and moving forward. I cannot say enough good things about this book. The characters were complex and ugly and sad and pitiful and raging and ignorant and hopeful. I loved that Joy gave a voice to the culture of the Appalachia as well. A tragedy on so many levels but so gorgeously told. And there are more than one moments where you will be shaking your head and saying, "Holy crap!" Really recommend. David Joy is right up there with S. A. Cosby in the poetic way they tell stories of racism. Really well done!

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Fabulous Book

This is my first book by David Joy, so I really had no expectations. I loved everything about this book. I highly recommend it. You won’t be able to put it down.

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Amazing

This is an outstanding book. The writing is authentic and true, just like the characters. Hopefully this author will receive the recognition he deserves. A fiction writer myself I can be tough to please but for me, this book hit the sweet spot between excellent literature and chair-gripping suspense.

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Joy does it AGAIN

David Joy is a one in a lifetime talent who did something few could actually pull off, and he does it with gut wreching sincerity. All of his books leave me wondering how much he has left to give us. I want more from this author. Read any of his novels and you'll want more, too. Kudos to the narrator, as well, Fair warning: This book might make you confront some ugly truths about the people you think you've always known.

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I Couldn't Put Down My Ears....

I have been a David Joy fan from his first book and put him in the same category of writing excellence as another amazing writer, Michael Farris Smith. I am also from Mississippi so am more than aware of the depth of emotion and volatility that unfolds. Tackling racism head on, Mr. Joy's book pulls no punches as this story evolves and revolves around a young woman's passion for justice and awareness and the devastating reactivity to maintain the status quo. This book to me is Mr. Joy's best work so far and the amazing narration by one of the best around, MacLeod REALLY Good"

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Powerful, authentic, beautifully written...

A story of struggle, examination of beliefs, and the tear of change. Loved the alternative perspectives of a rebel flag. Just getting people to question what they think they understand is a start to a humanity of acceptance, not fear. Thank you for telling a story that I pray will spark changes of heart.

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Wow!!

Excellent Book and great narration. The beautiful ending made me cry! Highly recommended it. I Absolutely loved it💯💯

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