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Ruins: Pathfinder, Book 2 | [Orson Scott Card]

Ruins: Pathfinder, Book 2

When Rigg and his friends crossed the Wall between the only world they knew and a world they could not imagine, he hoped he was leading them to safety. But the dangers in this new wallfold are more difficult to see. Rigg, Umbo, and Param know that they cannot trust the expendable, Vadesh - a machine shaped like a human, created to deceive - but they are no longer certain that they can even trust one another. But they will have little choice. Because although Rigg can decipher the paths of the past, he can’t yet see the horror that lies ahead: A destructive force with deadly intentions is hurtling toward Garden.
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When Rigg and his friends crossed the Wall between the only world they knew and a world they could not imagine, he hoped he was leading them to safety. But the dangers in this new wallfold are more difficult to see. Rigg, Umbo, and Param know that they cannot trust the expendable, Vadesh - a machine shaped like a human, created to deceive - but they are no longer certain that they can even trust one another.

But they will have little choice. Because although Rigg can decipher the paths of the past, he can’t yet see the horror that lies ahead: A destructive force with deadly intentions is hurtling toward Garden. If Rigg, Umbo, and Param can’t work together to alter the past, there will be no future.

©2012 Orson Scott Card (P)2012 Brilliance Audio, Inc.

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    David Tampa, FL 01-09-13
    David Tampa, FL 01-09-13 Member Since 2013

    Love listening to books.

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    "Ruins describes the book accurately."

    Card rehash's his classic teen hero from many of his other books, creates a really interesting method of time travel, sets up a great potential story in Pathfinder - then ruins it all with Ruins.

    The characters frequently engage in needless conflict and endless introspection that serve no purpose to the story or the plot except to lengthen this story from a very short story to novel length. Often Card cheapens the stories with tricks to get the characters out of trouble, sometimes with contradictions so close together it is not forgivable as missed by the editor or reviewer. Further, the characters become caricatures of themselves as the story progresses (way too slowly). Exaggerated emotions and artificial tensions that break from the expectations of those characters defined in Pathfinder. I expect the over capable super teen from Card's books, but this is the first time the super teen's switched from acting like highly capable adults to pre-teen middle-school brats within a sentence and without any stimuli.

    The book felt sloppy and rushed, and has left me wondering if I will bother with another Card book. I was very disappointed and felt robbed of the time spent listening to it.

    1 of 1 people found this review helpful
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    Darlene 01-03-13
    Darlene 01-03-13
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    "The characters interfere with the story"
    What disappointed you about Ruins?

    The shallow, silly bickering between the characters was tiresome and made me, like most listeners, want to just skip many parts. The actual plot and story were only about 1/4 of the entire book. It could have been quite an interesting sequel but the absurdity of the characters constantly arguing about insipid, petty things ruined it. Very poor writing from a normally decent author.


    What was most disappointing about Orson Scott Card’s story?

    Poor character development.


    What does the narrators bring to the story that you wouldn’t experience if you just read the book?

    The story was well narrated w/a decent cast.


    You didn’t love this book... but did it have any redeeming qualities?

    The actual plot and story were interesting but it felt like this was really just part of the next book stretched out as much as possible with filler to make another in the series.


    1 of 1 people found this review helpful
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    Karl M. 11-29-12
    Karl M. 11-29-12 Member Since 2012
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    "Disapointed"
    What would have made Ruins better?

    Listening to this book put me on edge. All of the bickering was just to much. I enjoy OSC very much and have all of his books. This is the first to be such a let down.


    Has Ruins turned you off from other books in this genre?

    No


    Did the narrators do a good job differentiating all the characters? How?

    Yes the Narrator has always been top notch and will always be.


    What reaction did this book spark in you? Anger, sadness, disappointment?

    Anger, disappointment


    Any additional comments?

    I will look forward to the Gate Keeper books.

    1 of 1 people found this review helpful
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    Tom 11-28-12
    Tom 11-28-12
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    "great continuation of the original story, but..."
    Where does Ruins rank among all the audiobooks you’ve listened to so far?

    interesting storyline,I liked it right up till the end, no resolution, obviously this will be a trilogy


    What was one of the most memorable moments of Ruins?

    when they discussed time travel, it made me think of how planet placement in space/time would change by thousands, or millions of miles. This would present a huge obstacle to any real time travel.


    Have you listened to any of the narrators’s other performances before? How does this one compare?

    many, he's always consistently good.


    Did you have an extreme reaction to this book? Did it make you laugh or cry?

    no


    Any additional comments?

    I know the author hasn't been well, and he's trying to tie up lose ends on his many series. I hope he can finish this .

    1 of 1 people found this review helpful
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    Lenin American Canyon, CA, United States 11-21-12
    Lenin American Canyon, CA, United States 11-21-12 Member Since 2014
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    "Annoying book we dont need"
    Any additional comments?

    Am an OSC fan. I had to listen again to Pathfinder in anticipation of Ruins. It was downright disappointing. OSC had to constantly remind the readers of what happened in Pathfinder. This is the second book! We all read the first one so why the summary? There's not much action in this book either. Most of the story is a war of words. The characters mistrusting each other, self pity, bickering. The first half of this book was like that that I was tempted to just stop and ask for a credit. I mean, It was so annoying I trudged slowly to finish the book. Other OSC books I can get thru in one go. Not this one.

    1 of 1 people found this review helpful
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    Shaun 12-17-12
    Shaun 12-17-12
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    "Great story, but needs a finish."
    Any additional comments?

    The story was good. The only cons are: The story is told in a series of conversations. And the ending is abrupt and unfinished. Other than that I liked it. I read the first one also. And I'll read the next.

    2 of 3 people found this review helpful
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    Jan 11-07-12
    Jan 11-07-12 Member Since 2011

    Tangential, eclectic, avid listener... favorite book is the one currently in ear.

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    "Lots of discussion and back to the past knots"

    So I couldn't wait for this book, but it is just a complicated and knotted segway to the next book which isn't available... in which more and more trips forward and back cause more and more complications with time travel. You'd need a diagram to remember who went where, when in time and why... and the constant discussions of why we should go where and how to undo what they have done by going back in the first place. i.e. Oops killed wrong guy, let me go back and undo it. At this rate it will be a 10 book series and like another reader... I suggest you wait til the book 3 is out before reading this one or you will need to re-read this one prior to reading that one, unless of course you can time travel back to the prior reading taking a copy of book 3... which will save OSC a lot of writing time if your paths cross and you deliver it to him, so he can begin on book 4. P.S. read Treason, his first novel and a divided world... complete in one book.

    2 of 3 people found this review helpful
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    Ryan United States 11-02-12
    Ryan United States 11-02-12

    I listen while i work. So i have 8 hrs a day :)

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    "I'm hooked and I want more"

    I must warn you, this review will be biased. I am a huge OSC fan. That being said I loved this book. Just as much as I loved the last one. There are a few things i didn't like about it but i will get to that in a bit. First and foremost this book is going to leave you wanting more. When it ends you're going to say what i said, "NO." I don't like the idea of spoilers so i wont be giving much away. I will merely say this is a definitely a book worth reading. The questions from Pathfinder finally get somewhat of an answer.

    My biggest critique is that due to what happens in the story figuring out what is true and what was merely presented as truth can become a bit taxing. But I think the rapid changes to theories leads to a rather exciting story.

    The performance is great at time. Stefan Rudnicki is great, but when the story switches over to Umbo's or Params point of view it leaves you longing to be back in Rigs perspective. Not to mention the development of Param's character take someone what of a snobby turn. This leads you to almost hate her point of view, team this with Umbo's whining and you hope that Rig is the only person who speaks to you the rest of the time.

    Though i dislike them, Isn't that the sign of a good book? I couldn't merely right the characters off I was engaged and wanted to hate them or like them. OSC does a good job of bringing out that emotion.

    all in all it's worth a credit. :)

    5 of 8 people found this review helpful
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    RB Alexandria, VA, United States 11-03-12
    RB Alexandria, VA, United States 11-03-12 Member Since 2008
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    "Finally!"
    If you could sum up Ruins in three words, what would they be?

    Jump right in.


    What other book might you compare Ruins to and why?

    Pathfinder


    What about the narrators’s performance did you like?

    Everything. Classic Rudnicki


    Any additional comments?

    The book is great, but like many an OSC book in a series, there is absolutely no way you could follow this one and have a complete understanding of the story without reading the first book. As a reader, I get the distinct impression that OSC writes the story first, and then chops them up into separate books to make them more easily digestible. This one is no different; it begins as if you just sat the first book down to grab a drink and you're picking up where you left off. It's is great, but I I highly recommend listening to the the first book,or at least the last few chapters, to get a sense of the story first. It took me a while to remember all the details.At any rate, still great. Waiting for the next Mithermages series installment!

    9 of 15 people found this review helpful
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    Lady Pamela New Mexico 04-20-15
    Lady Pamela New Mexico 04-20-15

    And Buffalo George

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    "Who's on First?"

    An enjoyable sequel. I enjoyed setting and plot -- .especially liked the ending. In fact, most of the book is pretty boring -- characters spent 90% of their time bickering-- until the ending. The drama in this book all about the characters and their inabilities to trust each other, leaving the reader to wonder who's the hero and what's the book's objective goal ? Why did I read this, again? The constant leaps in time left me wondering what day it is...and I gave up on that. I'm invested, so I'll go on to the third book of the trilogy.

    0 of 0 people found this review helpful
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