Models is the first book ever written on seduction as an emotional process rather than a logical one, a process of connecting with women rather than impressing them. It's the most mature and honest guide on how a man can attract women without faking behavior, without lying and without emulating others. A game-changer. Inside, you'll learn:
And much more...
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©2011 Mark Manson (P)2011 Mark Manson
Models shows a great way for men to think about the world and their relationship with women. It really focuses on improving yourself.
Mark Manson read it himself. It sounds like it was recorded in front of his computer and he left all the misreads and stumbles in. I could hear mouse clicks and I'm pretty sure he got text messages while recording.
No. Absolutely not. It was a 7 hour book recorded in 7 hours and a ton of mistakes left in. The negative listening experience definitely can overshadow the amazing content.
It inspired me to change the way I thought about my relationships with women.
Mark, please have this re-recorded with a pro reader.
While I’m not against an author narrating his own book, there are instances like this one when it’s just a bad idea. Not to say that this author could have done at least an adequate job if he had made an effort. Instead, what the listener is brutally subjected to is an unedited, unrehearsed and haphazard attempt at reading the text. It’s reminiscent of a junior high school student fumbling through a presentation of a just finished report, which was copied out of an encyclopedia and never really comprehended. It’s a shame, because the content has value but the delivery completely ruins even the most robust of concepts. All credibility in the material is lost when it’s coming from a source that sells such a weakly produced product. In addition to the lack of editing or proofreading, the author seemed to not even have given it a listen before releasing it for sale. The copyright and legal disclaimer at the beginning is read and for some reason explained before launching into the first section, which begins by repeating the same thing. I feel bad that the author doesn’t have a coach, advisor or even friend that could have told him of that and other mistakes. Or maybe he just doesn’t care. Expecting people to pay for something so poorly rendered is just wrong. I’ve often found that complaints regarding narrators of audiobooks were a bit petty and based mostly on certain style preferences. However, this audiobook is in an entirely new and more severe category of bad productions. I think I’m being a bit generous in giving the content a B+, the writing a C-and the narration a D-.
I did learn quite a bit from this book, but after trying to apply what I had learned I had zero success. For 3 months I went around flirting with women and asking for dates. I ended up with zero dates, but I did successfully alienate several friends and can no longer eat at some of my favorite restaurants. Clearly I am doing something wrong, but the answer to what that might be, is not explained in the book. I know these techniques can work, because I talked at length with a friend about what I had learned and he gets dates all the time using the advice I gave him. I felt disappointed that the author states that it doesn't matter what you say, it's how you say it. Sure, that's great and all, but I would have liked some basic conversation starters that I could start with or fall back on when my mind goes blank. Eventually I gave up and am back to where I started before reading the book, only with fewer friends. I'd also like to point out that the author goes on about how long he's been using the techniques and how much "success" he's had. Well, all that success and at the time of the writing of the book, he is not married nor has a steady girlfriend. Maybe that's not what he wants, but it's what I would like to have. I'm not going to go as far as saying this book is worthless, but I'm 38 years old now and it's looking like I'm going to be single forever and die alone. This book did give me some insight into how women think, but didn't get me any closer to a relationship with an actual woman. I learned that I was never particularly afraid of rejection, but rather afraid of making women feel uncomfortable. If you want to make women feel uncomfortable, by all means follow this man's advice, you will be very successful.
It's always great to have an audiobook read by it's author, however the sound quality was fairly poor. During several chapters there is an annoying hissing noise, and several times the author's cell phone receives texts. Also, the author occasionally mispronounces words that he allegedly wrote, that seemed odd.
The content was extremely good. I have learned some very good concepts that will help me be more successful with women, but also in all my human relations.
The only reason I am not giving this audiobook 5 stars is because of the narration. The author reads the book without much intonation. Despite this negative point, I totally recommend this book!
Yes, I would recommend the book to a friend...already have. It is a self help book without a lot of feel good fluff. Just wish the book had been around when I was in my 20's. Now that I'm in my early 50's I have overcome most of the mental obstacles to meeting women and all of the lifestyle challenges that most younger guys face. I'm just surprised that I agree with 90% of what this guy says. But one point that I didn't agree with is that demographics don't always work against you in a foreign country....moving to Colombia helped me out enormously.
Don't let the recording quality of this book scare you away. It is a MUST listen and will help you become a better man.
The author himself reads the book, and I really like that. He has a good voice and it sounds like a friend telling you a story.
Recording mishaps: The first 1 minute or so repeats itself. In later chapters, the recording gets fuzzy and the author sounds like his voice his out...almost seems as though 3 people are reading the book.
Despite the mishaps, I listened to this twice on a road trip and loved it.
Best: Content was solid
Least: Narration was almost unbearable at times.
The lightbulb went off over my head when Manson talked about the concept of demographic. In a nutshell what this means is that if for example you are a professional guy in his late 30's as much as you probably want to bang a 19yo blond waitress or sorority member the fact of the matter is that it would be very difficult for you to find any common ground with her. Further you probably wouldn't even enjoy spending time with her (other than fleeting moments in the sack). So why waste your time approaching her? Approach women in your demographic, and that doesn't just mean age group. Our hypothetic 30-something professional guy could still do great with say a 24yo grad student, and would likely enjoy spending time with her a lot more than with the aforementioned coed. Manson's concept of demographic was brilliant and definitely made an impact on me.
Narration was almost unbearable at times. Manson reads this himself, despite him not having a very appealing voice (to me he sounds like a gay guy). And his dictation and ability to read aloud? In a word, atrocious. I think he did one take, using a cassette recorder (you can hear the record button clicking on and off), and did zero editing. And it shows. There were numerous instances where it took him 3 or 4 tries to read a sentence properly. I guess I could forgive this sort of thing if he read it live, but to not edit this a bit for the sake of the listener is just laziness, something I cannot condone. Despite the fact that I liked the content a lot, the narration was so bad that on one more than one occasion I almost quit to ask Audible for a refund.
Content was solid, distinctly different from the usual PUA-type books. For me the usual "fake it till you make it" recommendations have always rang hollow, so I was pleasantly surprised to hear Manson's advice which focused on sincerity and being yourself, while always working to increase your SMV (that is a Red Pill term, not Manson's), but at the same time NOT being a beta pushover.
Read the book, this is highly recommended. Avoid the audiobook, it's painful to listen to this guy narrate.
How thoroughly it went through every part of what you may call pickup. You dont need any other book than this to learn what you need. I've read a couple of books on this subject, so I'd think I know.
"Excellent insightful book marred by the narration"
A truly first class book on understanding what women want. Probably the best I have ever come across.
The error the writer Mark Manson made is in narrating the book himself. Really worthwhile, thought provoking information comes across quite flat. Also there are clicks at the beginning of each chapter where he is turning on the recording machine. The recording quality is poor too.
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