Models is the first book ever written on seduction as an emotional process rather than a logical one, a process of connecting with women rather than impressing them. It's the most mature and honest guide on how a man can attract women without faking behavior, without lying and without emulating others. A game-changer. Inside, you'll learn:
And much more...
Please Note: This audiobook does not include any accompanying material.
©2011 Mark Manson (P)2011 Mark Manson
While I’m not against an author narrating his own book, there are instances like this one when it’s just a bad idea. Not to say that this author could have done at least an adequate job if he had made an effort. Instead, what the listener is brutally subjected to is an unedited, unrehearsed and haphazard attempt at reading the text. It’s reminiscent of a junior high school student fumbling through a presentation of a just finished report, which was copied out of an encyclopedia and never really comprehended. It’s a shame, because the content has value but the delivery completely ruins even the most robust of concepts. All credibility in the material is lost when it’s coming from a source that sells such a weakly produced product. In addition to the lack of editing or proofreading, the author seemed to not even have given it a listen before releasing it for sale. The copyright and legal disclaimer at the beginning is read and for some reason explained before launching into the first section, which begins by repeating the same thing. I feel bad that the author doesn’t have a coach, advisor or even friend that could have told him of that and other mistakes. Or maybe he just doesn’t care. Expecting people to pay for something so poorly rendered is just wrong. I’ve often found that complaints regarding narrators of audiobooks were a bit petty and based mostly on certain style preferences. However, this audiobook is in an entirely new and more severe category of bad productions. I think I’m being a bit generous in giving the content a B+, the writing a C-and the narration a D-.
Models shows a great way for men to think about the world and their relationship with women. It really focuses on improving yourself.
Mark Manson read it himself. It sounds like it was recorded in front of his computer and he left all the misreads and stumbles in. I could hear mouse clicks and I'm pretty sure he got text messages while recording.
No. Absolutely not. It was a 7 hour book recorded in 7 hours and a ton of mistakes left in. The negative listening experience definitely can overshadow the amazing content.
It inspired me to change the way I thought about my relationships with women.
Mark, please have this re-recorded with a pro reader.
I've read and reread many well known psychology books on codependency, narcissism and healthy interdependence (aka "good relationships"), and Models for me takes its place as one of the best, how to fix yourself, books I've ever read.
Sure, the premise is about attracting women from a man's perspective, but that's just the hook as this book accurately describes the need for honesty with one's self and honesty with those we interact with and especially with women. In explaining why honesty empowers you and why honesty matters, I found many useful insights into personal independence that parallel many psychology self-help books by PhDs and experts. Take out the chapter on sex and one night stands (not that the author is wrong for including these topics) as they are a bit of a detraction, and you have one of the most practical self-help books I've ever read for needy, and/or codependent "nice guys."
Models is a great book for men in general.
This book is a entry level book for people looking to get into game and self improvement. It accomplishes the goal of teaching men the basic steps in order to take to get women. However, where it fails at is teaching advanced techniques for men with high self esteem and how mark puts it "non neediness". The book overall was very thoughtful and entertaining.
I did learn quite a bit from this book, but after trying to apply what I had learned I had zero success. For 3 months I went around flirting with women and asking for dates. I ended up with zero dates, but I did successfully alienate several friends and can no longer eat at some of my favorite restaurants. Clearly I am doing something wrong, but the answer to what that might be, is not explained in the book. I know these techniques can work, because I talked at length with a friend about what I had learned and he gets dates all the time using the advice I gave him. I felt disappointed that the author states that it doesn't matter what you say, it's how you say it. Sure, that's great and all, but I would have liked some basic conversation starters that I could start with or fall back on when my mind goes blank. Eventually I gave up and am back to where I started before reading the book, only with fewer friends. I'd also like to point out that the author goes on about how long he's been using the techniques and how much "success" he's had. Well, all that success and at the time of the writing of the book, he is not married nor has a steady girlfriend. Maybe that's not what he wants, but it's what I would like to have. I'm not going to go as far as saying this book is worthless, but I'm 38 years old now and it's looking like I'm going to be single forever and die alone. This book did give me some insight into how women think, but didn't get me any closer to a relationship with an actual woman. I learned that I was never particularly afraid of rejection, but rather afraid of making women feel uncomfortable. If you want to make women feel uncomfortable, by all means follow this man's advice, you will be very successful.
It's always great to have an audiobook read by it's author, however the sound quality was fairly poor. During several chapters there is an annoying hissing noise, and several times the author's cell phone receives texts. Also, the author occasionally mispronounces words that he allegedly wrote, that seemed odd.
I'm a very shy guy that can't land a date even if my life depends on that, so I found the information of this book to be great.
But I should say that there are some parts where the narrator makes mistakes that can be a little bit annoying.
perhaps it updated. but the story telling and information is valuable. the vocal is fine- not prefect but it'll get you through.
look at it as a powerful audiotape rather then a book. the exercises are still there
The content was extremely good. I have learned some very good concepts that will help me be more successful with women, but also in all my human relations.
The only reason I am not giving this audiobook 5 stars is because of the narration. The author reads the book without much intonation. Despite this negative point, I totally recommend this book!
I really like the subtitle and the idea of this book, I like how soon it moves away from bad PUA advice. I like how much importance it places on honesty, vulnerability and self-improvement. However, the book is a bit all over the place, the spectrum of topics was too broad for a single book and some of the topics weren’t covered very well in my opinion.
I disliked the fact that the book is really gendered and heteronormative. I also didn’t like the last part of the book, where the author started giving advice about kissing and having sex. It was really unnecessary and partially really wrong, like assuming that your new partner is into dirty talk and just going for it. Intimacy is a whole other topic which I don’t believe is within the scope of this book.
All in all, there’s really good advice here and I would recommend the book. I loved the concept of neediness spread throughout this book, I truly believe it can help heterosexual men.
"Excellent insightful book marred by the narration"
A truly first class book on understanding what women want. Probably the best I have ever come across.
The error the writer Mark Manson made is in narrating the book himself. Really worthwhile, thought provoking information comes across quite flat. Also there are clicks at the beginning of each chapter where he is turning on the recording machine. The recording quality is poor too.
"Hire a professional!!!"
Such annoyingly cheap amateur production. Content is alright but audible: I paid you to deliver quality but lately you let all the authors read themselves. Be worth your money!!
loved it.. very good book.. no cheesy pick up lines etc.. very informative and holistic approaches when it comes to dating/asking out/chatting women.
excellent book with great content and advices . easy to hear and understand as well
"Basic and boring."
It's very basic and boring. Self-help manual. Plenty of similar titles out there. Taps into PUA culture. If you are in your 20s, go for it.
Narrator's voice is clear and rescues this otherwise very average audiobook.
"Not a PUA book"
This is an eye opening book of how to be yourself around others. Not for those who want to read a PUA book.
The sound quality isn't good, but you'll get used to it after listening it for 20 minutes. I don't regret buying this book, as a matter of fact I think it's one of the the best self-improvement book ever written.
"Genuine, entertaining, incredibly insightful."
Hard to single any one out. So many to choose from.
By reading it himself, he adds a depth of genuineness to the recount of his own experiences and his take on situations.
It felt an honour to be able to hear his facial expressions, tonality and genuine emotions as he personally recalls each step of his journey and discoveries.
Other reviewers criticised recordings and delivery for being amateurish, but I felt the style and quality of delivery was faultless and the occasional tape recorder clicks added far more than they took away - it made it feel so much more intimate and engaging.
It makes me think there's a lot to be said to make more writers recording their own narrations - I have another Audible book read by a 'professional' narrator, and it's bland and featureless with no emotion inspired or delivered by any of the text.
Yes, laughed many times by the stories, (and use of profanity!)
The insights into men and women's character traits etc are profound. This is far more than a dating book.
This is truly the only dating book you ever need.
This is far more than simply a dating book though - this is powerful stuff even for those in solid relationships.
Given the absurdity of the suggestions made in most other dating books, most should be banned for the negative impact they have on individuals, behaviour and society in general.
"The best self help book"
This is by far the best self help book I've ever read and could ask for, Ive almost finished my 2nd listen now still lots to learn and take away from it. Definitely give it a go!!
Had this recommended by a female friend, listened to it while walking around my city and it really really spoke to me. I feel like an idiot to be thinking this but I feel like it's changed my perception of the world. Before I focussed on bettering myself to make others like me - now I'll do it to give ME a better life, the other things will come naturally. Thank you mr Manson, I'm sure you know you've changed a few lives in your life.
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