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©1991 Orson Scott Card (P)2000 Audio Renaissance
"Thought-provoking, insightful, and powerfully written." (School Library Journal)
"As a storyteller, Card excels in portraying the quiet drama of wars fought not on battlefields but in the hearts and minds of his characters." (Library Journal)
I loved Enders Game, and Speaker for the Dead was alright, but not as great. I should have known that the third book would be a downer.
I know there are other books out there in the Ender universe and I might try again once I have healed from the terrible story that Xenocide was.
There many narrators and it helps to have an Asian accent for the citizens of Path. But ugh, I hated the citizens of Path and nothing could redeem their story.
Disappointment. I hated the tedious social existential psychology. For every 30 minutes I listen to the story creeps along just a tiny bit.
This has put me off Orsen Scott Card and the audiobook now lies 3/4 finished in my library. I try every once and a while to finish it, but I just end up yelling at the narrators. But it's not their fault, they did a good job, it's the story that drives me mad by it's snail paced philosophy.
Eddo of Posted Note
Yes. The voice actors are superior and there is so much to think about in this book that you almost need to listen to it twice to pick up on all of the information.
I wouldn't compare it to another book. The Ender's series is in a class all by itself.
The woman who plays Valentine brings so much emotion to her characters, but all of the actors are so good that I prefer listening to this where often I prefer to read.
I actually took notes in this book. "You cannot deny truth no matter how shabbily it is dressed." "You must understand all the consequences of an idea before you believe it." There is just so many deep points in this book that you have to just pause the book for a moment and let it all sink in.
Love this series so far. It's very moving and forces you to think in new ways and to view the world through fresh eyes.
After coming from "Speaker for the Dead", I was expecting a lot for this book. It disappointed me. There is little character development happening, instead it is replaced with ongoing family arguments. While some of that is necessary to drive the narrative, it goes on and on and on. Along with the overblown quarreling, you get a lot of overly descriptive conversations on meta-physical psuedo sci-fi gibberish. Again, a little bit helps drive the narrative, but it was excessive.
The only thing I liked was the idea of Jane, particularly because I am studying artificial intelligence. What I liked the least was that everyone was annoying and consistently made stupid decisions that created further problems, so all of the drama seemed very contrived. Even the really big problem with the fleet (continuing from Speaker for the Dead) was caused by the "brilliant" Jane and yet there is no discussion about that! This is in stark contrast with Ender's Game where most decisions where understandable so the problems seemed like they could actually happen.The "philosophical questions" are numerous but so overt that the characters actually tell each other they are about to discuss the philosophical importance of some subject. There is no subtlety and not much room for the reader to get drawn in.
I think I'm done with this story. I'm considering the Shadow series, but I don't think I can tolerate more of Peter though. Not sure if it's the voice or the writing, but listening to Peter is too over-the-top obnoxious for me.
No way. As the narrator says in the afterword, this story is too "talky"...there are almost no actual events to put on a screen. And the only events are either annoying or silly. I'd be as much fun as watching people wash their hands until they bled.
As the headline says, I've never read a book I didn't like in my entire life. I don't have very high expectations for books or movies, they are just something to pass the time for me.However, I really had to push myself to finish this book and thus write my first review on audible. My wife is reading the Kindle version and she gave up less than halfway, though she has higher expectations than I do. Her complaint was "too much needless talking", and I agree that it felt like a drawn out spanish soap opera, where almost everyone is annoying and endlessly whining, thus always creating new petty problems to solve. Then at the end, like the last episode of a spanish soap opera, everything gets quickly and conveniently resolved.Except for the problem from Speaker for the Dead that actually caused me to read this book...there has been no progress made on that problem. Now I don't care, it might be better to destroy that annoying planet.
The narration was fine most of the time; however, occasionally a narrator would overdue the Chinese accents and it was hardly tolerable.
Xenocide is a really long bridge between books 2 and 4 in the series. There isn't really a rising action or climax since it sets up everything for the final book in the Ender series. Additionally, the author says at the end of the audiobook that the original idea for this book was not specifically apart of the Ender series, but adapted it to fit in when he saw the opportunity.
The Chinese accents were occasionally intolerable they were so heavy.
Xenocide: A Commentary on Theoretical Physics and Futuristic Chinese Father-Daughter Relationships
If you like to listen to total philosophy then this book is for you. If you wanted to be entertained then I would not recommend this book or the next, "Children of the Mind"
SyFy, Zombies, Dystopia, Survival, Science non-fiction... anything to keep my mind entertained while doing the dishes.
So far, I have read Ender's game, Speaker for the Dead and Xenocide. I think the books keep getting better and better.
The narration is horrid in general. (1) There are several narrators, but the parts they read are inconsistent, thus creating a lot of confusion. For example, one paragraph will have one female narrator reading a female character and immediately the next paragraph will have a male character reading the SAME female character. (2) Towards the end of the book, two of the narrators sound like they are children, not reading a child character but the narrators themselves sound like they are children reading out-loud. (3) The voice of the hive queen is the most irritating thing I have ever heard in my life. Every word is exxxxteeeennnnddddeeeeeddddddddddd and then then the special effects add an "echo" to each eeeeeeeexxxxxxxxxxxtttttttttttteeeeeeeennnnnnnndddddddddeeeeeeedddddddd word. I do not think the book was written like that, so why is it read that way? (4) The female narrator reading is extremely affected, no matter what the character is saying, she says it as the final dying words of an important person. (5) The reading for all the characters of the God's spoken is infuriating, the narrators are trying to imitate "Chinese" accents but the accents are inconsistent, very affected and I understand maybe the characters "sounding" that way, but the narration also?
I am not sure who produced this audio book, the book is excellent and I think this audio book is a total disservice to the author and to the audience as well.
I really like the philosophical arguments in which the characters engage themselves and how every character is well rounded with qualities and defects, very "human" even the aliens :)
It flowed seemlessly from Speaker for the Dead that I had to go back and listen to a few excerpts to understand where the break in the two stories occurred.
I would love to have known precisely who the Hive Queen was engaged with regarding the on going dialogue which really helped further the story. I guess the mystery of who/what she was in conversation with adds to the flavor of the story. Some great surprises at the end, which just leave you salivating for the next installment!
A great performance of the story. The story was good too but it could be confusing if I had not heard the previous stories Enders Game and Speaker for the Dead, first
I will probably listen to the whole Ender and Bean series again in a year or so. Some of the concepts really made me examine my thoughts on other cultures and species.
The relationship between the various cultures and critters, and how everything is entertwined.
The ability to "read" while driving
Too many to list
I feel like I know the character, the locales,and the politics of the Enderverse personally
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