It's Change Year 25, a generation after high-energy technology died in a catastrophe most of the human race didn't survive. The children born after the Change are now starting to take center stage - and Whoever or Whatever was behind the Change itself may be taking a hand in their rivalries. An expedition has travelled to Nantucked across a strange and hostile continent to find some answers.
©2011 Steven M. Stirling (P)2011 Tantor
Didja ever wonder what was going on in Montival while Rudy and the gang were on the sword quest? Me neither. (12 hours of that) . Dies the Fire was a really fun thought experiment. Hard Sci-fi and swashbucker and whatwouldUdo post-apocalypse thought experiment. I even enjoy trying to use my undergraduate physics (quantum mechanics and Boyles Law) to explain the "change" Macguffin to my friends. The 2-followups set the hook ...or maybe I actually just skimmed the food porn in the first four books (advantage to print). Anyway, I'm still enjoying the ride. But the ride IS getting slower. Makes me wonder why he's spends time recapping the origin stories (like sequels usually do) because anyone still here at book EIGHT was surely here from the beginning. Worth a credit for emberverse fans. If you're new, head for book one then decide.
I LOVE these characters and after seven books I was hoping to get more than just a review of everything from the first seven books!
Marriage of Rudy and Maddie though it was WAY too short and lacking in specific detail. (wink wink)
Look for quality novels that do not stretch out a series over so many stretchy "installments" without truly satisifying endings?
I am so sad because I LOVE this author and the previous novels were very good. Islands in the Sea of Time series is terrific too. Not sure if I can stay in for Given Sacrifice if this is going to be the structure...:(
Beloved Stirling...your fans would rather have ONE GREAT NOVEL than twelve mediocre ones...just sayin" !!!!!
First off, I love S. M. Stirling and have greatly enjoyed many of his other books. This one, though, I did not enjoy. The story was too stiffing, and the manner in which he had the story jump from one time line to another was very confusing...perhaps straight forward for a book reader but as an audio reader I found the oscillations bewildering. I can understand why he wrote this book, to tie the story together, but it felt like a boring old patchwork blanket, like the one that grandma always had on the back of her couch that smelled of mold and mildew.
This book did not engage me as many of S.M. Stirling's books have. In fact, it was so dull that my mind frequently wandered. Just as I was about to blow it off and listen to something else, something more interesting (like Barney or the Muppets) I decided to try and stick it out in hopes that it would get better. Just as I thought that I would be rewarded, just as the characters were girding up for the final climatic battle, the book ended.
Bummer does not begin to describe it.
I listened to Stephen King's 11/22/63 after Tears of the Sun, and it was great.
Todd McLaren's performance in this novel was excellent.
No, not unless you mean instilling a desire in me to never listen to another book in this series. This desire is similarly tempered by my desire to find out how this will all end.
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This book is not terribly chock a block with action (though there some battle scenes) but the overall sense of it I got was that the author was really trying to describe more details and smaller parts of the world he has created. The overall story is advanced is advanced...somewhat. I found the description of the ins and outs of the new society to be interesting and will definitely read more but this book may not be the best thing for those who care more about "what happens next" and plotty aspects.
Personally, these books now to me are more about exploring the new created environment than the whole tried and true good v. evil storyline. Although I would like to know more about the world of those folks in Nantucket stuck in 1200 BC and how it will all tie together.
In the top 20%
There were several
I'm used to McClaren. Changing narrators now would be jarring.
Would've liked to, but it takes a couple of days
I really don't understand all these negative reviews. Like David Weber, Stirling writes in great detail and many layers. If one allows oneself to become invested in the narrative, these books are very compelling. I will be listening to the entire series many times in the future.
This series has well and truly passed it's use by date; the author should have terminated the cycle with A meeting at Corvallis. There really is nothing good to say about this latest installment. The story drags with an almost pointless set of flashbacks taking up way too much space, and then the build up to the denouement culminates in the same rushed ending as in the previous book and an attempted cliffhanger.
The characters have become even shallower and the action sequences exceed their previous anime silliness.
A sad and dismal end to what could have been a great series. I will not be getting anything else by this author.
I think this will be the last SM Stirling book I read. How you can go from awesome to completely terrible I don't know. This installment of the series is boring.
I would recommend the book because the performance is well done.
Can't think of one that stood out.
A whole lotta flashbacks
I've liked most of the books in this series, but this one and "The Sunrise Lands" are just a whole bunch of flashbacks. I wish he had just written a separate book about what happened back in Oregon/Washington while Rudy and the gang were traveling East.
If you can't get enough of the machinations of the Portland Protective Association, and really, really want to know what happened while Rudi and the gang were taking their cross-country hike, you might enjoy this book. But do yourself a favor--read it; don't listen to it. Then you can skip past the framing expostulation, which only serves to kill what little momentum there is in the plot.
Had Stirling used a different point-of-view for the flashbacks (say, a third-person omnicient), I might have accepted the device. But having two flashbacks inside the head of a character that had only briefly been introduced in the series (and never used as a viewpoint character) was annoying, particularly when a different character set up the flashback. This caused me to stop and say, "How did the Abbot do a mind-reading on Guelph?"
I'm not getting any more Stirling in audiobook.
He did the best job he could with the material at hand.
Boredom and disbelief. I find it increasingly difficult to believe that the people in Stirling's Changed world would act as portrayed.
At one point, a character walks the streets of Bend in unmarked PPA-style armor. This extremely uncharacteristic behavior in a town that had no reason to love the PPA would have gathered a swarm of idlers, children and dogs in any small town I know, yet this character seems to have carried off the incognito.
Just tell the story and quit re-telling the previous 7 books with a bit of new here and there, and fuck off with the food and clothes discriptions!
nothing by s.m. stirling
He actaully got away from some the worst attempts at acsence!
Was Losing me on the last 2 books, hung in there hoping for more, but just more of the same crap!
"mostly Stuff happens book"
Well written but this is just the prelude to the war so its mostly a " stuff happens" book. There is a big chunks about Mary llu's downfall but it is a book that if skipped to the next one you won't have missed much
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