It's hard to give peace a chance when the other side regards conquest as the only option and a sneak attack as the best means to that end. That's why the Kingdom of Manticore needs allies against the Republic of Haven, and the planet Grayson is strategically situated to make a very good ally indeed. But Her Majesty’s Foreign Office overlooked a “minor cultural difference” when they chose Honor Harrington to carry the flag: women on the planet of Grayson are without rank or rights and Honor’s mere presence is an intolerable affront to every male on the planet.At first Honor doesn’t take it personally. But, in time, such treatment becomes taxing and she makes plans to withdraw until Grayson’s fratricidal sister planet attacks without warning. Now, Honor must stay and prevail, not just for her honor, but for her sovereign’s, for the honor of the Queen.
A Note from Author David Weber
There's been some confusion—not to say, um, energetic debate, readers and fans being readers and fans—about the correct pronunciation of "Manticoran." The truth, alas, is that a stitch was dropped. An error occurred. A mistake was made… and it wasn't Audible's fault. It was mine. Before Audible recorded the very first Honor Harrington book, narrator Allyson Johnson and I not only corresponded by e-mail but actually spoke to one another by phone. She wanted to make absolutely certain she had the correct pronunciations for names, places, star nations, etc., and I tried to make certain all of her questions were answered. And so they were. Unfortunately, at some point in the process, I replied to one of her e-mails by telling her that "Man-ti-core-ahn" was pronounced "Man-tik-er-ahn." Exactly how this happened is more than I can say at this point, except to blushingly disclose that the original e-mail remains intact, confirming to all the world that it was, indeed, my fault. I can ascribe it only to a temporary mental hiccup on my part and crave your forgiveness. If, however, you must blame someone for the mix-up, that someone should be me and not Audible, who have done everything they could to get it right.
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"Following in the best tradition of C.S. Forester, Patrick O'Brian and Robert A Heinlein! These hugely entertaining and clever adventures are the very epitome of space opera." (Publishers Weekly)
In this book the character and history of Honor Harrington is further developed and a lot of background that is referred to in later books is laid down. The story flows well and the reading is excellent. I am not sure why or if there was some logic for the particular accents selected by the narrator, but it does serve well to help keep the characters organized. Highly recommended as a follow on to On Basilisk Station...
Once I started to read the series, now I feel obligated to reread the whole series in English.
This book is very important in the series as Honor gets introduced to the Graysons for the first time and vice versa. The way the misogynist society perceives women in military as an abomination and then how they start to grudgingly accept Honor was interesting. On the other side the abuse her crew suffer in the prison camp is just horrible and it almost made me cry listening to it. The narrator was just that good. The number of people dying is horrific as with any kind of military war stories but still the series is very entertaining and I am looking foward to rereading and read the more recent ones for the first time too.
1*=I didn't like it..... 2*=It was OK...... 3*=It was good but I will never read it again.......... 4*=Maybe I will read it again in the future.............. 5*=I will definitely read it again(maybe more than once)
This book expands HHU, New characters, new planets, some politics.
I consider this book to be a page out of feudal Japan history, this book also lays the principal blocks for the future grandiose actions and plots,it helps to move beyond just space battles.
Old "Fearless" will be scuttled, Honor receives a new ship just out of docks, She accompanies a diplomatic mission to Yeltsin star, where she encounters religiously conservative, sexist world Grayson, assassination plots and human cruelty.
There are lots negative reviews of Allyson Johnson's narration, Despite what people say I think she is a perfect fit.
She uses enough different voices and tones, that you can easily separate and identify any of the characters, her way of reading is unobtrusive, you don't get any of readers personal feelings on the subject, so you have freedom to make your own decision.
The narrator's cadence was distracting. It felt like there were inappropriate pauses after the articles, making it sound as if she was putting the words in "quotes." The narration was distracting enough that I stopped listening to the book.
I look forward to reading this book, as the story seemed interesting even though I could not listen to it.
A 50-something who loves sci-fi, cozy mysteries, thrillers, an occasional romance, and any genre if it is a good story. And especially if it makes me laugh! No vampires or zombies though - these are NOT sci-fi!
The second book in the series introduces the planet Grayson, and its misogynistic people. But not as misogynistic as the Masadans! Honor once again saves the day, several times, and manages to make some powerful enemies as well as some good friends. The narrator did an excellent job, even with all the different characters she has to voice.
The book is only saved by an exciting space-ship battle at the end. The rest of the time, the heroine does dumb stuff. The rabid patriarchal planet doesn't like women in command, so she runs off in a huff, allowing the rest of the navy to get clobbered. There is some satisfactory revenge as she wins the next space battle and there is real human pathos as she liberates some POW's but then she goes off half-cocked when she finds they've been killed or raped. Weber could've found a more inventive form of revenge. She saves the life of the patriarchal leader, leaving her with physical disabilities, but the leaders had already been pretty much convinced to accept women by then. If we had half star rating, I'd have given this only 2&1/2, not 3 stars.
I can find a book to love in any genre -- a beautifully written classic, an interesting mystery or sci-fi, a trashy romance. Bring it!
STORY - This story has such an exciting, dangerous, complicated plot, I hate to criticize it. There are many characters with ulterior motives that make things interesting and keep the plot twisting. But there are two really big problems, IMHO, with this book. First, Honor is so honorable, brave and perfect that she's not "human." There's not anything specifically to dislike about her but there's also nothing to really make you care about her either. Second, there is way too much information about interplanetary politics, ship capabilities, speeds, weaponry, etc. Yes, that's what makes this type of story interesting, but I became bored as it drug on and on multiple times in the book.
You will have to keep many characters and their motivations straight. This is not an easy listen. There are also some pretty bad things which happen in this book to Honor and many of her crew. The last two hours are very, very tense and the ending is emotional. If I had been more emotionally involved with Honor, I'm sure I would have cried. (But you may chuckle every time they talk about a pennis, which is like a shuttle, but then my mind may just be in the gutter).
I listened to Book 1 and now Book 2. They don't need to be heard in order, but there is mention of some events and characters from Book 1 in this book.
PERFORMANCE - She does a pretty good job with Honor's "soprano" voice, as it's called multiple times in the story, as well as male voices and a few accents. Overall, though, I didn't really care for her basic reading style. This book is about a dangerous military mission, and she sounds like she's reading a classic novel. I think a different reader, perhaps even male, would have been much better.
OVERALL - Recommended for men and women who enjoy interplanetary politics and battles. Not for children.
Every character talks the same. I don't mean the narrator, I mean the dialog. Everyone across the known galaxy, no matter what planet they are from, use the same words and talk in the same way.
People say "Indeed, it is!" and "I see" all the time. This really drives me nuts. I mean if one character liked to say stuff like this, I'd get it, but everyone, even the backwards folks from obscure planets talk like this.
And everyone feels the need to clarify everything they say constantly, in the event that there is a small risk, and by risk I specifically mean a possible communication breakdown, that you might misunderstand, and/or accidentally misconstrue, misinterpret, or otherwise not quite correctly comprehend the intended meaning of what they are trying to tell you.
Yeah, that's how characters talk. It's like a book about robot space laywers. They almost all talk the same, and very few characters stand out with any kind of personality other than some obvious background traits that seem to have no effect on how they act or behave, like : 'this guy is good with a plasma gun' or 'this guy used to be a smuggler'
No. I mean, the plot was ok, but that was about it.
She's ok. I had no problems with the narration.
It's a plot, with robotic characters plugged in. The plot was ok.
I loved this series when I first read it, and am enjoying a second time on audio. Another great piece of work by David Weber with all the space battles, politics, and theoretical physics you could want. The narrator does an excellent job of voicing the characters as they are described in the books, particularly the main character's clipped feminine soprano. The narrator has also picked up on the fact that the Republic of Haven bears a great deal of resemblence to the French (their capitol is even named New Paris), and the Kingdom of Manticore to the British, and capitolized on it by giving the characters from each star nation the correct accents. This really helps highlight when the story has changed viewpoints and makes for a more interesting narration.
I've read all of the series over the years, and listened to two Audible versions. If you are new to the series, and don't want to start with the first chronologically in the life to the heroine, Honor Harrington, then I suggest you start here. The later books get a little wordy and could have used better editing. By contrast, the here the character is developed well and the action scenes come along at a tolerable pace.
One of the things I like most about Honor is that she is a strong, self-possessed person. That comes throught well here.
"A pretty good second showing"
This book is subtly different to the first in the series, 'On Basilisk Station'. And in my opinion, not quite as good. But before you dash off thinking 'aw it's rubbish then'. You need to note how great I thought the first one was. It was great!
As with all second books, this one takes less time to paint the universe that it is set in. But still repeats a substantial chunk of the first book in explaining the physics and politics that make up such a large part of the appeal (for me at least) of this series. I can understand this... You don't want to alienate new readers. But I made the effort of starting at the start. I know this stuff... move on.
Don't get me wrong, this is still a pretty damn fine book. But it was not as compulsively grabbing as the first. And to be honest this does not surprise me hugely. How many series can you name where the second coming is as good, or even better than the first with less than 3 years between them (these were seperated by 14 months). After all, perfection takes time.
But do not be despondant. It is still great. There is more of an emphasis on space combat in this book. It still has it's fair share of political shinanigans, this time mixed with a pinch of religious zealotry. The twists are equally twisty. And there is an added level of grit that brings it a couple of steps further into the adult arena. The tension and build up is still there. But this time it did feel faintly contrived. Personally, I am just putting this down to the fact that I listend to 'Basilisk' and this book, back to back.
In short. It is well worth you attention. But I would recommend that you leave a gap between listening to 'Basilisk' and this one. It is a seriously good listen. But that delay will prevent the 'It IS good, but not quite as tight as the first' comparisons.
Look, I still gave it four stars!!! It's good. Honest!!!
Great novel and wonderful audiobook. I live Allyson Johnson's interpretation.
"Book 2 of the Honor Harrington series."
Just like the first Honor book,On Basilisk Station, this is great sci-fi and 'space opera'. The reader's still ponderous, but you get used to her.
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