In this sequel to The Lost Gate, best-selling author Orson Scott Card continues his fantastic tale of the mages of Westil, who live in exile on Earth.
Here on Earth, Danny North is still in high school, yet he holds in his heart and mind all the stolen outselves of 13 centuries of gatemages. The Families still want to kill him if they can’t control him - and they can’t control him; he is far too powerful.
On Westil, Wad is now nearly powerless - he lost everything to Danny in their struggle. Even if he can survive the revenge of his enemies, he must still somehow make peace with the Gatemage Daniel North, for when Danny took that power from Loki, he also took responsibility for the Great Gates. And when he comes face-to-face with the mages who call themselves Bel and Ishtoreth, he will understand just why Loki closed the gates all those centuries ago.
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"Card weaves another in a chain of satisfying, teenager-pleasing fantasies…. Card has a grand old time romping around in the fields of comparative religion while letting a feud worthy of the Hatfields and the McCoys unfold, with much tongue-in-cheek humor but a touch of gore, too." (Kirkus Reviews)
"Familiarity with The Lost Gate is useful, but not essential, as Card gives readers enough background to have at least a partial understanding of the world he’s created….Defined characters and a highly imaginative story. For the author’s fans, a must-read." (Booklist)
Audiobook Junkie... Love all types of Science Fiction
I thought the first book had a lot of potential, but then it started to go down hill towards the end. I had hoped this second installment would have started off better than it did and I felt the need to stop every half hour to get through the first half of the story. In fact, with a little editing I think we could have started with the second part (last 5 hours) of this recording. However, I did not find this novel without some redeeming qualities. But I can not recommend this for adults or young adults as it stands. For the record, I preordered this book and would have given the first in the series a five star review if I had purchased it on audible and not through itunes when it originally came out.
The Gate Thief picks up at the creation of the great gate. You should expect more of the same to continue from the end of book one for quite a long time. I started to really dislike the main character for being an insolent, foolish, and childish. If you like that sort of high school maturity scene then maybe you'll love this book. I could see someone relating this experience to that of listening to the Percy Jackson series because of the correlation with characters in high school, greek mythology, and super powers.
A big issue I found with this novel was the filler and immature teenage dialog between the characters. Some of it felt like an inappropriate teenage soap opera. Orson Scott Card (OSC) tries to explain that he wanted to give a thorough explanation of events so we would understand everything in the closing of this book, but I found some needless repeating of events. Often we experience occurrences, reasoning, and conclusions through the perspective of two different characters. There is also a need to explore, rationalize and philosophize through Danny's powers which brought back memories of the Pathfinder series. Another big mistake with this novel was the romantic angel. Danny has many girls trying to have his "babies" and sex with him. This definitely got a few few eye rolls from me. OSC is somewhat crude in his writing. We know this from Ender. He will be blatant about nudity, promiscuity, and bodily functions. We get the pleasure of listening to the characters talk about spying on girls in bathroom, peeing, pooping, and whole shebang that many authors tend to leave out. Overall, I mostly found the writing involving Danny to be sophomoric, predictable and staged, while finding other dialog repetitive.
So, the space time talk is back. I disliked his pathfinder series for its philosophical approach and it appears OSC's new obsessive focus on this topic has splashed over to this novel as well. 'Young child set off with self discovery for new powers but is confounded with that darn space time,' sound familiar? I shouldn't be surprised that this happened, but I guess I expected him to do a better job at separating his books since he is putting both these series out so close together.
Now, were there any redeeming qualities to this book? Yes, I thought that the other world OSC created with Wad (aka Loki the "gate thief") had some great characters developing and plots unfolding. It was a complete change from the teenage day dream world the character Danny North was living in. The narration wasn't fantastic, but it helped in this instance to have two narrators for each world. I didn't like the voice that portrayed Danny and the people from middle guard. Maybe it was due to the deep voice that came off monotone.
Anyhow, here is a passage I found amusing coming from OSC, a very outspoken anti gay marriage man.
"Girls were all man mages when you thought about it. They wrap guys around their fingers and drag them anyway they want it. First time I have ever envied the gay thought Danny. But then he had to admit to himself, being honest, he felt nothing of the kind."
Religion eventually is tied into this world of magic and I will give OSC credit for being thorough with trying to make this universe believable. An explanation for the Devil and Jesus is put forward. But we all know OSC's true God is space time. We get a long 15 minute explanation on why he wrote what he wrote at the end of this book. If you are looking to be a writer, maybe this is helpful, but it sounded like a lot of needless justifications to me.
I loved the first, and the beginning of this started out good, but I am not gonna finish, and I never do that. I'm stopping at chapter 18 after hoping it was gonna pick up... it is only getting worse.
From OSC probably...Stefan Rudicki and Emily Rankin ruined the book for me.
ANYONE would have been a better choice for the voice of a 14/15/16 yr old Danny North than Stefan Rudnicki. Its hard to picture a kid with a deep baritone voice.
Enough with a nerdy teenager having girls throw themselves at you and consistently being the better person and telling them no.The premise is insulting and ridiculous. Insulting that very girl he seems to know wants to sleep with him and ridiculous that hes so morally superior at 16 that he tells them ALL no. It gets to the point where its boring and even a bit preachy. Maybe with a different narrator it wouldnt have seemed so bad but I wish I had read the rest of the reviews a bit closer and maybe not chosen to get this book in audio.
I would not recommend this book unless it was on a great sale, as it was a few days ago. It is a good story, but the author gets bogged down over and over again discussing motives and inner narrative that doesn't advance the story that the book is rather tedious. The performers do a good job with the material- it would be worse reading it in paper form. It needed to be cut in half in terms of the content that is there, and more plot needs to be added. All in all, the editor dropped the ball on this book.
Yes- I love a lot of his other books, from Enchantment to Ender's Game. This one is weak tea in comparison.
Tangential, eclectic, avid listener... favorite book is the one currently in ear.
I grant that the first few minutes had my mouth watering to get back into this book. However, like the second book of Ruins I was left dissapointed. OSC books always have that teenage boy "moments of vulgarity." but they are usually easy to overlook. This one not so easy... I also felt like the plot really didn't go anywhere in the book, like you could skip to three and not miss much from two. OSC gives an interview at the end, talking about how hard it is to build the world and do the set up and have the plot move along at the same time. It almost felt like an apology for the book. Like I felt about Ruins, I'd probably wait to read this book until book three comes out and then read them together, for this alone didn't satisfy me like book one did.
I used to like OSC. Ender's game and the Apprentice Series == Great Reads, BUT...
The 1st book in this series was so-so. This was marginally better written, but I must be the wrong target audience. I've never seen an author try to recap, give away the twists and explain things soooooo much. There is a point when a story becomes an essay, and I don't like reading essays.
I wish Card reversed the gender of the characters as the physics/nature (bird & bees) may have made more sense.
I'm done with this series and probably Card for good.
Let me say this first. The story is interesting and cool. The narrative is engaging.
But I didn't like it and I couldn't finish the novel. Sometimes, a novel can be good, without you liking it, and this is one of them for me. I guess, this is a fantasy novel - so some things are going to be unrealistic - hey, there's gods and kids with strange supernatural powers. But, for me, there is something basically inhuman in this entire narrative.
See, human beings are motivated by a number of motives - love, hate, anger, desire to succeed, desire for fame, power, etc. They all meld together to form us as human beings. These novels are focussed purely and purely on power and control. You know this is going to be a sole focus, when getting eating extra breakfast to be fit becomes a discussion about who has power. It's an interesting perspective to look at from a distance. Love and approval only came up in one scene where parents were involved. The characters otherwise were just focussed on power otherwise.
But somehow, it grated, and eventually it got too much and I gave up. But hey, if you think of books like pop corn and don't want to think about what they are saying, go ahead. But I warn, this book acts very pretentious and logical - but when you get right down to it, it's inhuman and disgusting in an indescribable way.
Redo of the original like old time space opera
Emily Rankin needs some work
Boring and trite
Not up to most of Orson Scott Card's Work
The first book in this series was ok and I hesitated buying the second. I guess I blame my poor review on the excellent book by Peter Hamilton that I listened too prior to this this adolescent garbage. Adolescent is a perfect description of the character development and story. I had to stop a couple of hours into the book because it was so annoyingly awful. My largest complaint is the pointless completely unrealistic dialog between the teenagers. It was NEVER ending with 30 minutes of moronic back and forth between characters that had absolutely no point in the story. I want the 2 hours of my life back that I wasted on this book. AVOID!
I like this series. The world is thorough and the story intriguing. I just cant stand any of the young-adult or romantic interactions. The dialogue between the teenagers feels forced and stiff and almost all sexual references in the book just make me cringe. I wish Card would have focused on developing a few more characters and deepening the world rather than creating awkward references to cleavage and shallow relationships with the protagonist.
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