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Permutation City | [Greg Egan]

Permutation City

The good news is that you have just awakened into Eternal Life. You are going to live forever. Immortality is a reality. A medical miracle? Not exactly. The bad news is that you are a scrap of electronic code. The world you see around you, the you that is seeing it, has been digitized, scanned, and downloaded into a virtual reality program. You are a Copy that knows it is a copy. The good news is that there is a way out.
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Audible Editor Reviews

Greg Egan concocts a fascinating and thought-provoking novel that explores the role of technology in creating alternate realities, blurring the lines between what is "real" and what isn't. In this future world of globalized economy and devastating climate change, Paul Durham has scanned multiple "Copies" of himself into his computer and becomes entangled with Maria, an Autoverse aficionado. Egan raises interesting questions about artificial intelligence and morality within a technological world, and it's a high concept that is brought to life by Adam Epstein, whose measured performance and faintly rumbling voice adds a palpable and dramatic intrigue to Permutation City.

Publisher's Summary

The good news is that you have just awakened into Eternal Life. You are going to live forever. Immortality is a reality. A medical miracle? Not exactly.

The bad news is that you are a scrap of electronic code. The world you see around you, the you that is seeing it, has been digitized, scanned, and downloaded into a virtual reality program. You are a Copy that knows it is a copy.

The good news is that there is a way out. By law, every Copy has the option of terminating itself, and waking up to normal flesh-and-blood life again. The bail-out is on the utilities menu. You pull it down...The bad news is that it doesn't work. Someone has blocked the bail-out option. And you know who did it. You did. The other you. The real you. The one that wants to keep you here forever.

©2013 Greg Egan (P)2013 Audible, Inc.

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    LAURA 03-02-14
    LAURA 03-02-14
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    "Not recommended."

    If you suffer from insomnia…this book is for you. It WILL put you to sleep. Adam Epstein must have been brain dead when he read this, it sounded like a technical manual rather than a story.

    2 of 2 people found this review helpful
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    Russell Austin, TX, United States 09-05-14
    Russell Austin, TX, United States 09-05-14 Member Since 2013
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    "i don't hold it against my friend for reccomending"
    What was most disappointing about Greg Egan’s story?

    the publishing company must have printed the rough draft by mistake. major plot developments drop off and never picked back up, useless character have there stories re told multiple times and never contribute to the over all story, and the book end abruptly as though the author accidentally forgot the last third of the book somewhere.


    What three words best describe Adam Epstein’s performance?

    lackluster and weak. compared to the book itself this verbal recitation (wont call it a performance) is the least of my complaints, but won't be listening to books read out loud by this guy again.


    Was Permutation City worth the listening time?

    maybe - there were great concepts and moments in the book that gave it the potential to be very thought provoking. plenty of ethical and philosophical discussions on what defines a person and reality. i really lost myself in the world from time to time, but more often i noticed that the pacing was off and great ideas were being presented as major plot development only to be mentioned later in passing like the author forgot he was trying to do something with them. a story line that got repeated more than twice that added nothing to the story and should have been presented as a miner diversion at best was beat to death for some reason. overall i wanted this book to be great and maybe the final draft was, but that's not what i got to listen to.


    1 of 1 people found this review helpful
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    Jason W. Bowen Austin, TX 06-13-14
    Jason W. Bowen Austin, TX 06-13-14 Listener Since 2010

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    "Great story, but narration isn't terrific"
    Would you listen to Permutation City again? Why?

    I will read Permutation City again because of the subject matter, but I won't listen to it again (see my comments on the performance below).


    What other book might you compare Permutation City to and why?

    This book is similar to Egan's Diaspora and Schild's Ladder. They borrow some of the same concepts and features of the universe.


    How could the performance have been better?

    The accents the narrator affects are rather jarring. The German accent sounds more Russian and the Australian accent is a cartoonish caricature. It may sound petty, but it really does take you out of the story. Another minor thing is the pronunciation of the acronym ASEAN (The Association of Southeast Asian Nations). It should be AH-zee-ahn, but the narrator pronounces it A-shawn.


    1 of 1 people found this review helpful
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    James 03-05-14
    James 03-05-14 Member Since 2013
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    "Excellent Hard SciFi done right! AWFUL narration"
    Would you consider the audio edition of Permutation City to be better than the print version?

    No, the narration was awful, about as bad as possible without causing me to stop listening or return the purchase to audible. His voice is nasal, and his style monotonous: A deadly combination. On top of this, his accents were awful


    What other book might you compare Permutation City to and why?

    Anything else by Greg Egan; The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch by Philip K. Dick


    What didn’t you like about Adam Epstein’s performance?

    His voice is nasal, and his style monotonous: A deadly combination. On top of this, his accents were awful I don't recall listening to anything else by him, so maybe he just had a bad day.


    If you were to make a film of this book, what would the tag line be?

    Permutation City, the Movie: WTF, Hollywood Actually Made This?


    Any additional comments?

    Permutation City amounts to a compelling thought experiment on the nature of consciousness, self-identity, and the implications of artificial reality & existence. This is not SpaceOpera scifi; It's hard scifi and requires thinking about the ideas & concepts presented rather than passively enjoying a good story. One of my favorite books.

    1 of 1 people found this review helpful
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    David Dalke Irvine, CA United States 12-12-13
    David Dalke Irvine, CA United States 12-12-13 Member Since 2011

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    "Mediocre in every way"
    Would you say that listening to this book was time well-spent? Why or why not?

    This book left me uncaring for any of the characters. I kept hoping it would get better. It was one of the few Audible books that I have read that I was ambivalent about finishing Any intrigue about the scientific content was wiped away by the boring voice portrayal.


    What was your reaction to the ending? (No spoilers please!)

    Whatever.


    What three words best describe Adam Epstein’s voice?

    Boring, monotonic, halting.I just could never "get into" his normal reading voice. The accents he used for the different characters were better than his normal voice, but only slightly.


    Did Permutation City inspire you to do anything?

    Yes, to look elsewhere on Audible for other authors and voice actors.


    Any additional comments?

    Wow, this is one of the first Audible books that I was really disappointed with. I say to all that are interested in Audible that a good voice actor can really enhance the enjoyment of a good book. I can now say that a mediocre voice actor can really degrade the enjoyment of a mediocre book. I hate giving bad reviews, but there you have it...

    3 of 4 people found this review helpful
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    Jonas 02-25-14
    Jonas 02-25-14

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    "Painful"
    Any additional comments?

    This was the most painful narration I've had to listen to. Usually I can get used to a voice but this was... just not workign for me at all. Sorry, dude, but your voice was like nails on a blackboard. I'm sure you're a nice person though.

    2 of 3 people found this review helpful
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    SciFi Kindle Cheshire, CT USA 02-26-15
    SciFi Kindle Cheshire, CT USA 02-26-15 Member Since 2013

    I'm a Hard SF & Space Opera-loving, alien android from the future. I bring gifts of SciFi eBooks & accessories for your leader's Kindle. Take me to him/her/it.

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    "Moral dilemmas of digitalization"

    This exploration of digital consciousness is heavier on the philosophy than hard SF, although enough near-future exposition and tech is provided to support the premise: supercomputers allowing for digitization of living minds. Once that platform is established, Egan is free to play with all the high concept questions that result from a physics-free playground subject to will and desires. In the virtual environments that these uploaded consciousnesses inhabit, every sensation and perception can be modified to the individual’s tastes, as can those tastes and indeed- the individual’s own personality. The story’s drama comes, in part, from characters altering their very selves to accommodate circumstances. Additional moral questions come into play when system-generated additional personalities are introduced to provide community, and when intelligent life evolves from scratch in the VR and begin to seek their own origin. When these intelligences come into conflict with one another, or with the outside world, where the same computer resources are in demand for improving life for the billions of our reality, additional dilemmas ensue. All in all, the novel does a great job extending the trope and giving it the full examination it deserves, although it’s a bit weak on the characters or action.

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    Treasure Baton Rouge, LA, United States 01-28-15
    Treasure Baton Rouge, LA, United States 01-28-15 Member Since 2011
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    "Amazing book. Amazingly bad narrator."

    I am torn. Greg Egan is arguably one of the greatest sci-fi authors of our time, and without reservation my favorite. Permutation City is an exemplary piece. I waited years for audible to release his works. When they did, I immediately went to purchase Diaspora, one of the best books, sci-fi or otherwise, that I've ever read. I clicked the sample audio button... and then checked to make sure it wasn't April 1st. Surely this was joke. I heard a whiny, nasal, mosquito buzzing voice, reading at kindergarten speed, and then using some of the most comically exaggerated and poorly executed accents I've ever encountered in a professional production. I then discovered to my horror that this narrator reads almost all of the newly released Greg Egan material. Give it a try. If the voice doesn't bother you, you are in for some seriously mind blowing hard sci-fi. If it does, pick up some of his books in another format. They are amazing.
    If you dig, you can find an old cassette recording of Diaspora online. It is read by John Polk, and even with poor audio quality, is far superior to kindergarten audio-torture version offered by Audible.

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    Mark C. Flynn Los Alamos, NM United States 12-04-13
    Mark C. Flynn Los Alamos, NM United States 12-04-13 Member Since 2012
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    "technically brilliant"
    Would you listen to Permutation City again? Why?

    Yes, mainly for the ideas. I'm not sure I took it all in the first time


    1 of 4 people found this review helpful
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    "Interesting if you take your time"
    Where does Permutation City rank among all the audiobooks you’ve listened to so far?

    The story and concepts are fantastic but is let down a little by the narration.


    What other book might you compare Permutation City to, and why?

    Islands in the Net or any Hard SciFi / Cyberpunk


    What about Adam Epstein’s performance did you like?

    There are a few comments here saying Adam Epstein's performance is terrible. While not the best performance in the world it was definitely listenable and once I got used to the way he narrated I began to listen to longer chunks and enjoy the narration.


    Did you have an emotional reaction to this book? Did it make you laugh or cry?

    Some of the concepts introduced in the book held my attention a lot more than the actual story.


    Any additional comments?

    Concepts gave me something to think about after I finished the book. Give it a chance and take your time with it.

    0 of 0 people found this review helpful
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