• Clash of Eagles

  • By: Alan Smale
  • Narrated by: Kevin Orton
  • Length: 14 hrs and 46 mins
  • 4.3 out of 5 stars (186 ratings)

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Clash of Eagles

By: Alan Smale
Narrated by: Kevin Orton
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A rising star in the realm of alternate history, Alan Smale delivers fiction of broad sweep and epic scope.

Set in a world in which the Roman Empire never fell, Clash of Eagles finds Praetor Gaius Marcellinus leading his 33rd Legion into Nova Hesperia. But there his conception of the world is challenged by encounters with the Powhatani, Iroqua, and Cahokiani tribes.

©2015 Alan Smale (P)2015 Recorded Books

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Interesting idea but not believable and ultimately predictable.

I used to enjoy alternate history as a genre some time ago but don’t read much of it anymore. I read this book on a recommendation. I found it rather predictable and overall just unbelievable.

The narration was decent but with some oddly mispronounced words here and there.

The set up is that it is the early 13th Century, though I don’t think it’s mentioned specifically that I recall, and that the Roman Empire never fell. The Empire is currently at war with the Mongols but also searching the New World for gold.

That’s where we meet our main character at the head of a single legion in the heart of North America. Where he winds up in Cahokia, a city near modern day St. Louis, and his hungry and rebellious legion attacks the city because they need the corn for winter. Instead they are wiped out by a clever bunch of Cahokians who fly around in gliders launched from a giant mound (that at one point is mentioned to be 1000’ high) and they drop essentially napalm on the romans or shoot perfectly aimed fire arrows from a moving glider and wipe them all out.

Our author has recast these natives, who’s city was abandoned in 14th century before Europeans arrived in the New World in our timeline, as basically something they were not. In our author’s version of reality, these people are surprising liberal. They have women in roles of authority, as members of the military, clan chiefs, etc.. the mounds were for launching these gliders not as tombs and monuments which they really were as all mounds were.

But this particular and unusually large mound in real life is still about 90% smaller than the one in the book and it hides much DARKER story. One of an elite buried with 300 human sacrifices. That’s right, the real Cahokians engaged in human sacrifice and the mounds were just status symbols of the elite class.

I am all for an interesting alternate history, but why does that mean the author gets to change a people’s culture to suit his narrative? Even if on the surface it appears to cast those people in a more civilized light, it’s still a lie and it is honestly disrespectful to those people and, to some extent, the victims of their more dubious practices.

And as a student of anthropology, I just don’t think it was necessary and the whole flying bit was superfluous to the predictable plot of which the battles consisted of: bad thing happens, another bad thing, another, another, oh wait here’s a crazy idea with no explanation of how it was accomplished hence the term “plot device” and then good guys win.

Could have written the same essential story, but probably more interesting and certainly more believable, if the Roman actually was in a more realistic and brutal culture that this place and its people actually practiced.

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Interesting concept, captivating story, poor end

Interesting concept, captivating story, but unlikely elements and outrageous and disappointing ending.
I realize it's set up for a sequel, but the ending was so destructive as to destroy any desire to read more. I may attempt the second just to see how he can resurrect the storyline, and because this book ends on such a sour note.

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The unlikely elements are flying machines (make it fun though) and Greek fire used by cohkians. Also that their enemies would have been able to capture viking longboats, learn to sail them and the take them all the way from Chesapeake Bay--down around Florida and then up the Mississippi to Illinois in 2 years and build and use siege equipment without Roman/Viking aid and training. That our Roman hero was able to accomplish so many advancements was unlikely enough.

The ending: the good guys army and city were nearly completely destroyed. All of their technological advancements were destroyed and their Roman weapons and armor stolen.
Their defense of the city was pitiful. And Marcelinus ran around ineffectually and ended up a near invalid.

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Good premise, silly story

A world in which the Roman Empire never fell and an invasion of the Americas is an idea with great potential. The childish flying Indians is a squandered opportunity to spin a great saga.

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No. No. No

If you enjoy alternate history that has its feet in reality this is not for you.
Rome s Tech not advancing but somehow they make it to North America?
Flying Indians on leather kites! So much more underivable. Wrong Wrong Wrong.
Not my style

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Imagine a 12 year old describing his toys.

Imagine a 12 year old describing his toys. He'll spend a lot of time describing how the catapults work, how they fling fire, how far they shoot. He'll describe how forts are built, how deep the trenches are, how tall the walls are. Imagine he's inventive and he has flying contraptions and he'll tell you exactly how they're build, what sort of weapons they carry, and their destructive abilities.

Not really a book, though, right?

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Mound Builders and Flight

Could the Mound Builders developed flight? I'm Native American and there were Savants, in our past, so maybe. the Iroquois Confederacy may have other tribes joining them. There might have been more than 5 when the Romans arrived.

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excellent rewrite or imagining of history

great story and narrator however the audio seemed to go in and out occasionally

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Not What I Was Looking For But A Good Story Anyway

I was looking for a historical fiction set during the Roman empire and not an alternate history. Nevertheless it is a good story, well written and performed that one should enjoy. I'll just read a little closer and pay more attention to the summery next time.

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Very enjoyable

I really enjoyed the book, it is quite unrealistic even for alternate history but the author makes you believe in this world and immerses you in it. Love the story and can’t wait to read the next book.

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Rome invades the United States!

This book was a lesson in imagination! A Roman Legion invades the East coast of the United States. This is back before any English colonize the north american continent. So this Roman Legion ends up battling with many different Indian Tribes. They keep treking West until they run into the central north American Mound builder people. This is when the Mound builder people were at their greatest, most sucessful period. The Army of the Mound builders completely destroys the Roman Legion and the only one left standing is the Praetor Gaius Marcellinus. Gaius goes through many adventures. I received this Audio book for free in exchange for an unbiased review. Good Listen!

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