Why must we suffer?
"If God is good and all-powerful, why does he allow his creatures to suffer pain?" And what of the suffering of animals, who neither deserve pain nor can be improved by it? The greatest Christian thinker of our time sets out to disentangle this knotty issue. With his signature wealth of compassion and insight, C. S. Lewis offers answers to these crucial questions and shares his hope and wisdom to help heal a world hungering for a true understanding of human nature.
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This book is an exploration of why a good God would allow for pain and suffering. It is not an easy book to listen to because Lewis explores the merits and fallacies of various theological ideas about the topic, which requires some foreknowledge of theological terminology and concepts. Because of this, I don't know that I would recommend this book for a new Christian. It is not that a new Christian could not benefit from it, but the vocabulary may cause a great deal of frustration.
This is one of the few books where I can say that I thought the first half was better than the second half. In the first half, the reality of pain is discussed as it relates to the nature of God. In the second half, Lewis begins exploring various beliefs on the subject of pain, and I thought he tended to wander a bit off topic at times and contradict himself. For example, in chapter nine, he discusses pain as animals experience it. One second, he says we can't really know about their pain or their immortality and the next he conjectures that the reference to the lion and the lamb lying down together in heaven was probably a common analogy of the time and shouldn't be taken literally, implying that animals probably do not possess immortal souls. I believe he overlooked quite a few verses in the Bible that imply otherwise. I deducted an "overall" star for that.
The narrator would have been a good narrator for a Shakesperean play but not for a C.S. Lewis book. Lewis had an off-the-cuff style and most narrators of his books reflect that. James Simmons' style was anything but off-the-cuff. He made it sound more like a lecture than like Lewis reading his own work. It's not that he's a poor narrator, it's just that a narrator with a more relaxed tone should have been chosen.
Overall, there are certain ideas that I will take with me from this book that I believe will help me in my moments of pain. I knew intellectually that God does not allow pain without reason, but the explanations of God's character relative to reasons he might allow for suffering will be something that will help me to emotionally understand Him. I would listen to this book again (or at least the first half) and I would recommend it to anyone who wonders why a good God allows bad things to happen to good people.
Retired teacher of literature with an interest in religion and in science and in history. I have loved reading for 50 years.
Lewis has some interesting things to say about the problem of pain, and what he says is not the same old story that you hear from other thinkers. Parts of his argument really struck me as quite satisfactory, and parts not...but if I read the written version and study it maybe I will have a better grasp on what Lewis has in mind. It is a very stimulating book to say the least. It will make you think!!
Audible is better than TV
I will listen to it many times. I will do so because the subject matter and the philosophical/metaphysical lecture is very deep.
I love the mind of C.S Lewis, and this is a discussion concerning a huge problem I have with believing in a caring God.
This is probably a cultural issue, but the narrator spoke too quickly for the subject at hand with very little inflection. He also had an English accent which was hard for me to understand at times with the speed of the narration.
I would not make a film of this book, but maybe I would create a story like Animal Farm to display the concepts.
I have now read and listened to this book. I think this is one of those occasions that reading along with the narration would be good. I can't remember if this was whisper sync enabled or not, but that would probably be great.
Please note that this is philosophy/metaphysics based upon Christian doctrine. If the thought of a deity in charge or of Jesus offends you this is probably not the book for you. If you are in this camp you may want to read Mere Christianity by C. S. Lewis though.
My hope is that you would believe, but I would never try to convert anyone. Conversion must be based on logical thought and Christ's enlightenment.
The discussion about Abraham and the probable reasoning behind his trial.
All of it, really.
All of it, really.
Understanding Pain Spelled Out
I've listened numerous times, it is deep and comforting. I want to memorize the points so I'll have them in my head and heart when needed.
great, but had to listen at 0.5 speed or it was too fast. worth it.
You are what you feed your mind...so, feed it the good stuff!!!
C.S, Lewis is amazing how he takes s topic and then articulates the details, questions and sub arguments. His ability to do this so painstakingly patient is truly amazing!
It's new chapter I found at least one point to take home and discuss with others. An interesting take on the reason for pain.
The Problem with Pain is a fantastic book especially when paired with CS Lewis book The Great Divorce. I never really considered the spiritual side of pain. CS Lewis makes a great argument for why pain is a better proof for a loving God's existence then a merciless god without goodness or no god at all. While the recording was very well done the content was a bit too heady for just a casual listen so I bought the Kindle book for deeper study and thought. Good #audible book. Great author. Greater God.
One of those books, like all classics, that you must read and ponder on many times to absorb all of it (or to have any hope of absorbing much of it). A very intelligent analysis, from a very intelligent man.
The narrator was perfect. Everything met and exceeded my expectations. It's just sort of a hard read, in that you truly have to be entirely engaged in the audio to understand and follow along. As with much of Lewis' writings I suppose. As a mother of five, who mostly listened as I fell asleep each night, it was perfect.
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