Living in Christ's Presence

Final Words on Heaven and the Kingdom of God

By: Dallas Willard, John Ortberg

Narrated by: Dallas Willard

Length: 7 hrs and 5 mins

Publisher's summary

Dallas Willard and John Ortberg explore what it means to live well now in light of God's kingdom. They reflect on the power of the Trinity in our lives, the meaning of knowledge, the importance of spiritual disciplines and much more. Dallas Willard offers poignant thoughts about what it will be like to transition into the very presence of Christ in heaven. This audiobook is adapted from the talks given at the February 2013 Dallas Willard Center "Knowing Christ Today" conference in Santa Barbara, California. Each chapter is followed with an illuminating dialogue between Ortberg and Willard. The audiobook closes with the theme of offering a blessing to one another. These reflections comprise an apt conclusion to Dallas Willard's public ministry. It is a gift of grace. A conversation guide written by Gary W. Moon is included.

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Let Go of Control

Despite the title laden with all kinds of connotations, this is a phenomenal book. The book is really the summary of a conference put on by Willard and his friend/mentee John Ortberg. The conference was for pastors of churches and it turned out to be Dallas Willard's last work before he died.

I listened to the audio of the conference (which was at least slightly edited from the conference) and flipped through the book, reading about half of it in review. The book is also cleaned up a bit from the audio version.

1. I'm currently on a quest to discern what it is about my conservative christian roots that is so off-putting to myself and others.
2. I've always been fascinated by Dallas Willard being such an influential christian while his day job had him in the philosophy department of a major university (USC). From a couple of comments from my Aunt who recently listened to this I decided to start here, at the end of his works.

If Dallas Willard had a church, I think I may enjoy it. There are 2 really important pieces from this book that make me think I would enjoy a community with Dallas Willard leading it.

1. There is a recurring idea letting go of control in almost every aspect of christianity. One of the most gripping examples is when he speaks of himself as a young pastor: "I thought the way to move someone was to make them feel, not provide them with knowledge." He has since learned that making someone feel is manipulative, and providing someone with knowledge is empowering. If there is any single piece keeping people out of conservative christianity, it is probably this one. He states the problem and applications in a few different ways throughout the book and states it well. Do your best and let go.

2. Willard (and Ortberg) puts a lot of emphasis on life now rather than life after death. "Your kingdom come... on earth as it is in heaven" so we are not leaving to go to heaven, heaven is coming to earth. I think between Dallas Willard and NT Wright's influence the conservative christian church is doing a lot better job of this.

John Ortberg was a big part of this conference. It seems pretty obvious his goal was to make Dallas Willard accessible and applicable to the pastors in the audience. I think he splits his time accomplishing that goal and also pulling the listeners back towards an organizational, application-at-all-costs misunderstanding of what Willard is saying. Careful not to treat people like machines rather than people/friends Ortberg! Suffice it to say I skipped through a good portion of his talks. At one point Ortberg makes a joke while interviewing Willard that was clearly not the time for a joke, but Ortberg missed the depth of what Willard was saying. I think it was cleaned up in the book, but you will probably notice it if you listen to the audio.

Not too long of a book/audio, highly recommended for anyone interested in a "sense of pervasive well-being" (willard's definition of joy) or anyone wanting to better communicate the message of Christianity.

Keep the blessing flowing!

This may have been a conference for pastors, but there isn’t a disciple alive that won’t be blessed by these wise words. Share it with everyone willing to listen. They will thank you.

Dallas’ love for God and for us is so evident in these recordings - it brought me to tears.

I loved this audiobook and I am certain that I will listen again and again.

For those who are seeking a deeper sense of purpose for their Christ life in this time, for those who are exhausted with the roles that they’ve been carrying in their churches, for those who are overwhelmed by the feeling that their one life wouldn’t make a difference- please listen to this.

Dallas’ love for God and for us is so evident in these recordings - it brought me to tears.

I feel encouraged, renewed and more hopeful than ever - without any baggage of guilt or burdened by obligation. Dallas and John get to the heart.

I rarely write reviews- but this one - 💜

I wish you every joy.

It is what the title says

Learning to know, love and be in Jesus presence. Listing to Dallas speak will inspire you if you want to be closer to God

Great topic and content by Dallas and John!

I do wish the audio was better organized into appropriate chapters, really hard to go back and relisten to something specific.

Wonderful

Much of what is in this audio book was not new to me because I've studied the Bible for many years. However, what I did find wonderful is the refreshing honesty of the characters. I have a new outlook on living out my faith that was seemingly right in front of me all this time... I even stopped to post many ideas from the author on FB in attempt to bless someone with the wisdom.
thank you and i will be buying all Dallas Willard's books...

My new favorite book of all time.

this book is actually the recording of a conference Willard did with John Ortberg 4 months before his death. I cried all the way through it. What a blessing and a life-giving challenge.

best book I have read this year.

This has been and will be the best audiobook I have read this year and would recommend it to everyone else as the first and primary book along with the Bible in their relationship with Christ.

Life Changing

It’s seldom that I read or hear information that causes me to pause, hit replay, then consider what was written/said for hours afterward. Dallas & John offered up such an experience here, and I’m up for more! Thank you brothers!

Such a blessing

Thank you for offering this recording for the Glory of God. It is a blessing.