As hordes of refugees and looters pour out of the cities, a small group of friends living in the Midwest desperately try to make their way to a safe-haven ranch in northern Idaho. The journey requires all their skill and training since communication, commerce, transportation and law enforcement have all disappeared. Once at the ranch, the group fends off vicious attacks from outsiders and then looks to join other groups that are trying to restore true Constitutional law to the country.
Patriots is a thrilling narrative depicting fictional characters using authentic survivalist techniques to endure the collapse of American civilization. Listening to this compelling, fast-paced novel could one day mean the difference between life and death.
©2009 James Wesley Rawles; (P)2009 Brilliance Audio, Inc.
No on both counts. Mr. Rawles seems to know his stuff when it comes to prepper info., but although the larger story is plausible, the day-to-day events are just plain ridiculous and the character development non-existent. 8+ adults living together in a single family home for several years and the only internal strife is one of the women gets cranky once a month??? Cannibal commies after 2 months? C'mon! Every character is either 100% noble, or 100% pure concentrated evil, there is no gray area ever. If that wasn't bad enough the "I'll survive because I know better than you" smugness comes through page after page after page.
All of it was made worse by narration that was perhaps the worst read I have ever listened to. Out of 50+ books this is the first one I EVER put on faster than 1.0 read rate. Frankly, I'm not sure why I finished, but I guess it goes back to the fact that the larger story is plausible and interesting.
Overall, Mr. Rawles should've been a technical consultant to a decent fictional writer, and Mr. Hill should've stuck to his day-job, whatever that may be.
No, some of my favorite books are of the post-apocalypse genre, although this was my first prepper book.
BAD, JUST BAD
I would've kept the overall theme of the book, but scrapped most of the rest of it.
I will not read another Rawles, nor listen to another Hill, period.
This book is not for those with a casual interest in the “survivalist fiction” category, but judging from other comments it doesn’t seem to be for the “true” preppers either.
If you’re after a good, fun, interesting read on a topic that you find intriguing but haven’t really looked into too much – keep searching, this book isn’t for you.
For me this book wallowed in detail and smacked of Mary-Sue narrative. I struggled through 10 hours of this book before giving up. In that time there was probably only1 hour, 2 max, of actual story, the reset is bogged down on painful details about equipment, drill instruction, gun descriptions and random preaching about God which had little to do with religion or faith really, but were just a clumsy narrative tool used to try to separate the “good guys” from the “bad guys” in the shortest possible way.
When he introduces a new character, be it a “baddy” or a “goody” he again takes a short cut to force them on the reader – instead of letting us discover the character he makes them go into a massive monologue explaining their entire life story and the history of how they ended up where they were and why they were prepared for the disaster. Call me sceptical, but if a group of people ambushed me and pointed guns at my face and asked “What are you doing here, don’t worry we’re good guys” I would not be giving them my life story, complete with whimsical quips on my childhood. I’d be keeping my answers short and trying to get away from the people with guns as soon as possible.
The characters themselves lacked any depth at all. Each character was essentially the same person with a different appearance. All the “good guys” had identical ideals, identical speech patterns, identical vocabulary, and any decision making was really just an excuse for the author to (again) use a cheap ploy to try to force depth onto a character and to show off about his own knowledge on the subject (which he seems to be very pleased with himself about). Sadly the conversations tend to go like this: “I think we should do this” “but this way is better” “Oh you’re right that makes much more sense you’re so smart let’s do it that way”. It’s more like verbal self-gratification than a discussion.
The bad guys are just your stock-standard “look how inhumane these people are they are cannibals and child abusers and rapists – they make me physically ill, I’m trebling with rage at them”. It’s another cheap way to definitively separate the good from the bad – there is no grey in this book, not bad guys with redeeming features, no good guys with stains against their honour or internal struggles. This post-apocalyptic landscape is populated with 2-dimensional characters strewn about in a highly constructed “narrative” which is really one man’s idea on what he would do if the world ends (and was surrounded by other versions of himself). The author has written this for people already absorbed in the “prepper” mentality hoping that they will project their own life onto the characters, saving the author from having to go into the nasty chore of giving characters any depth himself.
I’ve marked the narrator down also – if you’re still keen on this book, please listen to a sample before committing to your purchase. He garbles the words in a way that I can’t articulate. It’s like he’s having something painful happening to him while he’s speaking, and his pattern and pitch and rhythm is all wrong. Or like he’s holding in a burp and still trying to talk. Very distracting (especially his female voice!).
I wish I could get those 10 hours back!
Could be the scenario we face here in the future, and if not, still a great story. Maybe too much detail on some of the guns, radios, etc., but it's also very good information if you want to prepare.
Sure makes you think about what you would need in order to survive during an economic collapse.
I have to give credit to the author for his pragmatic views on survival in case of economic collapse. What I can't stand--just my personal opinion here--is the angle from which the author writes. No offense to any Christians who may read this--to each his own--but to me this book should be titled "Ultra-conservative Christians: A Novel of survival in the coming Communist Cannibal apocalypse."
I am a huge fan of survival novels, and bought this book pretty much along that premise. "Earth Abides" by George R. Stuart, as well as "Alas, Babylon" by Pat Frank are two of my favorites. "One Second After" by William Forstchen, and "Lucifer's Hammer" by Larry Niven are pretty good as well, not to mention "The Stand" by Stephen King (horror/fantasy survival scenario!) and "Robopacolypse" by Daniel H. Wilson (killer AI robots/tech survival novel).
I have no special aversion to highly-religious authors, but in this case, I freely admit that I was disgusted by the overt political/religious views of the author. I could deal with the characters' constant need to "reflect with prayer", but when the first two "villains" show up carrying cannibalized body parts and communist manifestos in their shopping cart--Yes folks, COMMUNIST CANNIBALS are the enemy here--I felt like vomiting all over my iPod. Someone should have told the author that the Cold War is over and that the Soviet Union collapsed back in 1991.
I mean no offense to conservatives out there, or religious fundamentalists who believe that the earth is only a few thousand years old. If that's you, then buy this book! You will love it!
However, if you are not a card-carrying Tea Party'er, and don't believe that all liberals--let alone hippies--are communists, then I would suggest your credit might be better spent elsewhere. Now I need to go wash...
The narration was ok but everyone did sound a bit like Dr Zoidberg from Futurama.
I love the survival fiction genre. It has a lot of potential to explore but I have a hard time finding really good books in the genre.
20 years ago I read nearly the entire "The Survivalist" series by Jerry Ahern and loved them. They were less informational than this book but more entertaining. More gun oriented as the protagonists guns were fully described every time they were mentioned which was about every half page or so.
This book is about a survivalist group self described militia who all wear matching uniforms and love ambushing people walking down the road to question them in the name of justice. I found the characters to be pretty much pretentious self righteous pricks. That being said they would almost certainly be the people who would actually survive a global meltdown so I have to give them that.
I enjoyed the book even if I loved to hate the protagonists.
Tangential, eclectic, avid listener... favorite book is the one currently in ear.
I have loved end of the world lit... "The Road," "One Second After," and "Alas Babylon" are some of my favorites. Wanting something similar I tried Patriots, not even close. No kidding this reads like a survivalist catalog down to and including the model numbers, pros and cons of purchase and would have, should have. It is violent, improbable, self righteous and includes a war senario with Idaho prepper groups fighting the UN take-over tanks and soldiers. So when you are prepping be sure and store hand granades and extra long fuses. It does have an unusual start and end of the Apocalyse and will teach you how to deliver a baby.
I've now listened to all three of the Founders series of books and enjoyed all three of them. I view these books as three intertwined stories so I can understand the repeat sections in Founders and Survivors that come from the first book.
For a new listener, you can get by with just reading or listening to the first book, but the other two give you some back stories and additional information. It's kind of like one big huge book in three volumes.
Another aspect of these books is they give you information on ways, means and methods of survival that you can take and use if something like this every truly happened. I'm just sayin.
This was my first audio book and I really enjoyed it, This book has so much information that it would be nice to have it as a refrence book.
The book gave me an idea of what society could be like if it disintegrated to chaos. It opened my eyes to many things I had not considered, and showed solutions to be considered.
Absolutly! Very informative.
Taking over the town, getting rid of the bad guys.
He does great voices!
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