Initially, the Thirty Years War was precipitated in 1618 by religious conflicts between Protestants and Catholics in the Holy Roman Empire. But the conflict soon spread beyond religion to encompass the internal politics and balance of power within the Empire, and then later to the other European powers. By the end, it became simply a dynastic struggle between Bourbon France and Habsburg Spain. And almost all of it was fought out in Germany. After 30 years of conflict, entire regions of Germany and Bohemia were depopulated and destroyed by marching armies, fire, famine, and disease. It bankrupted most of the participants while leaving thousands of German villages, towns, and even cities in smoldering ruin.
Because of the political and geographical complexity of the early 17th century, an understanding of The Thirty Years War can be difficult to grasp in the beginning. Listeners will be rewarded by patience. As an aid to comprehension, we recommend the online Wikipedia article "The Thirty Years War" for maps and overviews of the geography, principle leaders, and major battles.
Total running time: 19 hours and 48 minutes. Narrator: Charlton Griffin.
©1938 Estate of C. V. Wedgwood (P)2012 Audio Connoisseur
Be warned to appreciate this book to the fullest you have to have some knowledge of European History and Geography -- something too few people have to this day.
This is the best book written on the great Thirty Years War which reshaped European History and the map of Europe for many centuries. In fact it is only today that modern diplomats are tearing apart the Peace Of Westphalia and all that it means.
This is basically a classic European power struggle between Catholics and Protestants, Bourbon and Hapsburgs, The Holy Roman Empire vs. the rest of Europe. It involves some of the great names of European History -- Wallenstein, Tilly, Gustavus Adolphus, Richelieu, etc.
The book is very detailed and describes all the major battles in great detail as well as the political struggles between the various small duchies of Germany and electors. One of the results was to lead to the rise of the Hohenzollerns. The personalities of all the numerous leaders our described in great detail. and you listen with fascination to the various political machinations of the various leaders.
The brutality of the war is not overlooked either. One of the unfortunate aspects of the war was that is coincided with the period of Black Plague in Europe which wiped out soldiers, generals and citizens alike. As the armies roamed over Europe they looted, sacked and burned the cities. Her description of the destruction of Magdeburg is outstanding as this great city was burnt to the ground. Starvation became so great that there was evidence of canabilism among the desparate populace.
The Thirty Years War combined with the Black Plague wiped out over half to 2/3 the population of Europe. It left ruined cities, burned out villages, and fallow fields. It took centuries for Europe to recover from the aftermath of this great war. It was more devastating to Europe than was World War I or II.
No person interested in modern History should miss this book. There is no other book like it, but it may take some of you some background preparation to understand it. Above all you might want to print out a map of Europe in 1618 to have by you as a reference if you are not familiar with the names, places, and geography of Europe.
The reader is excellent. I don't think they could have chosen a better one to read this book. This is a book you will want to listen to several time to appreciate it, just like you have to read the original book several times to understand all the facts and nuances it contains.
I remember taking a course in this period of European History. This book was required reading - and you got tested on all the detail so you needed to read it through several times. But it so well written that reading and listening to it is an enjoyable experience. It is a work of literature as well as history -- too bad so few writers, can write as well as Wedgewood.
Don't be daunted by the size and complexity - take it a listen to in small bites if you have to - you won't be disappointed.
I like to read but listening is better.
I only rated this 3-stars despite giving the performance 5 and the story 4. The reason for this--and I've had this problem several times with exhaustive military histories--is that I probably only managed to get 75% of this book. It was just really difficult to keep up with all the unfamiliar names and titles and countries and territories. And you're learning about the complex foreign policies of all of these different entities. I think if you're familiar with the Thirty Years War this book would have to be a 5-star. But if, like me, you have no previous knowledge of the Thirty Years War, it may be a bit overwhelming at times. However, it was very well written and entertaining. Extremely informative. And the narrator absolutely crushes this thing. At first he may seem a touch over-dramatic but you'll soon get used to it and appreciate it. Griffin's style of narration is absolutely perfect for this book.
seriously, one of the best narrations I've ever heard & this topic (the thirty years war), a personal favorite of mine. I could not have asked for a better product and recommend it to ameture historians (such as myself) or anyone looking for a great story read very well.
The title of my review refers to the content of the book and the effort involved to take in the material in the book.
The Thirty Years War was incredibly destructive. Somewhere I read that it set back civilization and development 200 years in Germany. Death came during the battles, from disease and the rampaging of the armies through the countryside. For thirty years armies marched up and down Germany and when they camped they destroyed the area they lived in. In one episode the peasants attacked the soldiers, knowing they would get killed, because they refused to be passive victims of circumstances. The war began with a revolt in Prague and it seemed like at one time or another every country, duchy and city got into the fight.
It was a period of great social and political change. At the beginning of the war everyone was fighting about religion. At the end it was nations fighting each other. Gustavus Adolphus of Sweden and Ferdinand III of Austria were just two of the fascinating characters among the leadership.
It was a well written book, good literature. It was also long, complex and full of all kinds of different people. It takes a commitment to develop a good understanding of the people and events. The narrator helped. His voice had a nice tone and pace which helped make the listening enjoyable. I am glad I read it and I recommend it. Now I want to learn more about this era.
This fine book and reading are not improved by the addition of music. The drama the music is meant to represent or enhance is already present in the text, or it is not. Audio Connoisseur fails to grasp this fundamental fact. This is baffling.
To express it a different way: A book's music is in its words.
I will continue to listen to Audio Connoisseur's offerings despite this glaring flaw.
This title presumes the reader already has an intimate understanding of the 30 years war, and this in my opinion is a tragic mistake.
I think so.
No, far too hard to follow for the average person.
This title was clearly written by someone who presumes that their readers are already familiar with the 30 years war, and what I was expecting was an in depth breakdown of the conflict. Sadly there is none of that. Very few battles are examined in great detail, and the title over all seams to be aiming for an audience that I simply don't think exists.
This is my favorite audiobook that I've listened to on audible so far (out of around 25 in total)
There was nothing innovative or unusual about this book, which is not really a complement. It is simply a compelling interesting story that is well written and well read.
Not really room for character performance in narrative history but I rather did like Gustavus Adolphus pretty much dominating everyone he came across.
The Real WWI. Or Wow guys we should really be a bit more subtle with diplomacy from now on.
Highly recommended. This book is also very dense so it is worth listening to several times.
find me a good well read book that covers this very important war. I really liked it so it takes some work and you really have to keep up with it
It's a bit dated compared to more recently written war histories. The sweeping one-line characterizations of personalities and moods would be rare in a modern history, for example. But the book is clearly an incredibly thoroughly-researched masterpiece, and really transports you into the strange, chaotic era of the 30 Years' War.
An extremely well researched, well presented account of one of the
most complex periods of European history completely ruined by the atrocious narration. At times I was almost driven to give up finding myself distracted by the mispronunciation of words, Prog for Prague, graineries for granaries, orften for often and others too innumerable to list.
I note that I have another title with the same narrator already in my library and dread to even open it.
I knew very little about the 30 years war before listening to this. It gave a good overview of the political machinations behind the was and made the conscious decision not to focus on the destruction.
"Good account, slightly overdramaticly read"
This is a serious account of a tragic war, lots of detail, but would benefit from less intense reading style.
"Too much detail presented too quickly."
Anyone who doesn't pronounce 'often' as 'orfen'. There were several other instances of pronunciation I found rather strange. The reading was far too lackadaisical, as if he could only just be bothered to read it.
It was just too hard to follow in audio format. Too many names and too much information thrown at the listener. It would be far better as a book.
"Still the best book on Thirty Years War"
She retains the narrative sweep and pace throughout while still writing a serious history.
The audiobook is ruined by the narrator with truly absurd pronunciation ( presumably Prog is Prague !!) and the wholly superfluous music and WEEPING !! at the start of later chapters.
There are many, essentially the anecdotal touches of detail which a more "serious" book might eschew.
Unless the narrator was acting in it.
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