A Soldier's Passion for Order

Sherman

By: John F. Marszalek

Narrated by: Kevin Charles Minatrea

Length: 20 hrs and 48 mins

Publisher's summary

General William Tecumseh Sherman has come down to us as the implacable destroyer of the Civil War, notorious for his burning of Atlanta and his brutal march to the sea. A probing biography that explains Sherman's style of warfare and the threads of self-possession and insecurity that made up his character.

©1993 John F. Marszalek (P)2013 Redwood Audiobooks

Critic reviews

"John Marszalek's no-nonsense biography covers all the bases." ( Washington Post Book World)

"A thoughtful and generally sympathetic biography of one of the Civil War's most controversial commanders." ( USA Today)

“In Sherman, John F. Marszalek has written the premier biography of the brilliant Civil War general. Based on exhaustive research, written smoothly, and argued intelligently, it easily surpasses any existing volume on William Tecumseh Sherman's lengthy and controversial life.” ( Journal of American History)

Great

Superb history of the times and man
The greatest general in this difficult time period

Well, it is Sherman....

Would you listen to A Soldier's Passion for Order again? Why?

I can't say I would listen to this book again. The content is well arranged and the story told is good, although the initial moves to best characterize the debate between Northern and Southern opinions is rather simplistic. I live in South Carolina and when approached about an opinion on Sherman it is easy to see him as a war criminal by today's standards and unethical by his own standards.

Going into the reading with a biased perspective you get the opportunity to understand Sherman as a man. The book covers his religious views, family life, loss, gains, and carries you all the way up to the ending (he dies... hope I am not giving anything away).

Much of my frustration with this material is that you get a perspective that he is one of our own when many of us consider him as an invader. His burning of Columbia is met with the same comments we hear everyday, but truthfully we see a person that had no issues with disrupting the organizations that develop fundamental changes to a society. That is, churches and schools.

In presentation the story is good. I disliked some of the more questionable details getting left to the end. Some periods are glossed over, but it would be difficult to find someone that in South Carolina welcome Sherman to dinner as the text seems to imply.

What do you think the narrator could have done better?

The narrator seems to have variations in volume and tone, which I believe is due to rerecording sections. I could swear I heard a telephone ring in the background of the audio, but you would only notice it with the volume at an extremely high level.

The only issue I have otherwise is that all of the characters seem to have a similar voice. Sherman's voice is okay, but often it sounds like he is talking to himself.

Was this a book you wanted to listen to all in one sitting?

I can't say anyone can listen to something so long in one sitting...

Any additional comments?

I know the first review and make or break a book. I honestly enjoyed this book and would recommend it. It is not the best, but it is more than enough to keep you entertained and presented well enough to enjoy at points. You will get frustrated and will experience joy at certain passages.

You should get this book and listen to it, but keep in mind that you may find yourself repeating sections as you get confused. When the narrator bumps into the microphone you will hear a loud noise. He careful about the volume of listening. Most of all, enjoy the book.

Story well done. reader performance a distraction

What did you love best about A Soldier's Passion for Order?

This is a comprehensive look at William Tecumseh Sherman from childhood through his role in the Civil War and afterwards.

What didn’t you like about Kevin Charles Minatrea’s performance?

The reader, Kevin Charles Minatrea, "creates" accents for statements (quotes) by the various characters in the story that are a major distraction from the otherwise smooth flow of the author's text. He has nothing on which to base his "manufactured" accents because there are no recordings of the characters actual voices .

Any additional comments?

The "made up" accents are almost enough of a distraction to stop me reading this book.

Probably better to read.

What did you like best about A Soldier's Passion for Order? What did you like least?

The book is nothing if not a thorough portrait of Sherman. That's what it promises. That's what it delivers. The author doesn't filter out any details, which made the book a little dense for my taste.

Really not a fan of the voice the performer picked for Sherman. Not sure if there was a historically accurate story behind it, but "old prospecter" isn't the choice I would have made for the voice of the character most quoted throughout a 20 hour book.

What was most disappointing about John F. Marszalek’s story?

I really like Sherman before I read this book (pictured him as a conflicted general doing what he felt was for the greater good). I think it's worth listening to regardless of your opinion on Sherman, but hearing about how balls-to-the-wall racist he was quickly rendered him un-likable.

It's hard to tell if it's the writing or the performance, but for whatever reason I just got the impression that the book was trying to hard to paint Sherman as a good guy. For all the racism, and killing of native american women and children, it seems like whats most pushed on the reader/listener is "Sherman was a likable family man, who was respected by everyone who knew him."

I'm all for showing both sides of a complicated man, but I got too strong a feeling that I was being told I should forgive his shortcomings.

If this book were a movie would you go see it?

Yeah, as long as it didn't glorify Sherman. Sherman was a whole lot of bad things wrapped up in an insecure person, and he revolutionized the way war is made. How have movies not been made about him already?

Best (Audio) Biography on Sherman

Would you consider the audio edition of A Soldier's Passion for Order to be better than the print version?

This is much better than the other audiobook bios of Sherman. In particular, it far surpasses "Fierce Patriot: The Tangled Lives of William Tecumseh Sherman". That text has a forced, heavy-handed analysis of Sherman, the author frequently interrupting the story to give your his judgment of Sherman (which is not especially wise) instead of just presenting the information and leaving the reader to judge for himself. This one does the work much better, has all (or nearly all) the same information plus more, and makes the experience of the book much more pleasant.

What does Kevin Charles Minatrea bring to the story that you wouldn’t experience if you just read the book?

He reads it will, in general, but his accented quoting of Sherman is forced and doesn't sound like someone from Ohio. It sounds more like someone from West Virginia or Kentucky.

Good biography of Sherman

Would you listen to A Soldier's Passion for Order again? Why?

Yes: Kevin Minatrea does an outstanding job of evoking the personality of Sherman and other characters in the biography.

What about Kevin Charles Minatrea’s performance did you like?

His dialects are wonderful and he brings an actor's sense of personality and character to the words of the text.

Great Book

My only objection was the voice of Sherman ... I'm not sure he sounded like Walter Brennan

Compelling account of one of the nation’s best

Amazing and well sourced account of Sherman’s life. The narrator’s voices or internal monologues can be distracting at times as he switches between normal speech and silly accents. Overall a great book.

An Honest Study of a Flawed Hero

Would you listen to A Soldier's Passion for Order again? Why?

I might. It's a good model in thorough research and dispassionate treatment of the record. The author does make a compelling case for Sherman's lifelong effort to attain the order and respect that he felt he lost in his own boyhood. If I were to criticize Marzalek's approach, it would be for focusing so narrowly on that one motivation. I think there were opportunities in the record to examine companion motivations more thoroughly.

What other book might you compare A Soldier's Passion for Order to and why?

I've read a fair amount about Winston Churchill, another deeply flawed hero. I don't think, apart from the fact that they both carried the wounds of childhood far into adulthood, Churchill and Sherman had much in common. But studying their lives has given me the opportunity to think about what I can admire and learn from in leaders who were so great in in some ways and so wanting in others.

What does Kevin Charles Minatrea bring to the story that you wouldn’t experience if you just read the book?

The narrator is largely invisible. He just tells the story. He's clear without being showy or a distraction in any way. That can be hard to do, and he's to be congratulated for his professional delivery.

Was this a book you wanted to listen to all in one sitting?

I don't think anybody can listen to 20 hours straight in one sitting. It took me a little more than a week. As military history, it's not that dense.

Any additional comments?

I've always despised that Southern Sir Walter Scott garbage, that lie about Southern chivalry that so blithely romanticizes white supremacy, that justification of slavery. I've always thought the South, especially South Carolina, deserved the March to the Sea for provoking and prolonging the war, and I still do. So I've always admired Sherman.

I admire him less now. He was a great soldier, but he was also narrow and sometimes mean, not in the sense of being cruel -- although he could be that, too -- but in the sense of being petty and selfish. There's an account in the book where Sherman, entering a conquered city, is approached by a former subordinate turned Confederate soldier. Sherman describes their former comradeship and then explains to the man how he's betrayed that trust by betraying the Union.The confrontation clearly rattled Sherman; it seems that he felt his duty compelled him to point out the betrayal and to chastise the unregenerate traitor. But then, a few pages later, here's Sherman nonchalantly fraternizing with another rebel POW, this time a beaten confederate officer who was not only a comrade in arms but a family friend before the war. He gives the man dinner, welcoming him as a long-lost brother. If the foot soldier is a traitor, isn't the officer friend even more of a traitor? Doesn't the duty to uphold the Union require even more when it comes to personal friendship? The question doesn't seem to dawn on Sherman.

This isn't just personal pettiness. Sherman said he believed in "hard war, soft peace," meaning that he'd fight as hard as he could until he'd beaten his opponent, then offer the most generous terms he could. What that meant in practice is that when Joseph Johnson capitulated to him, Sherman let the southerners write most of their own surrender terms. Those terms were much more lenient than what Grant had accorded to Lee shortly before. By the peace terms subject to his judgement rather than his commander's and the president's, Sherman jeopardized the terms of the broader Union victory. He had to be reprimanded before he backed down and conceded the decision over surrender terms to the civil authorities. He later did and said things that even make it appear he thought the Confederates could keep their slaves. It's deplorable enough that he doesn't appear to have understood the underlying cause for the war. He also doesn't seem to have kept abreast of United States law, or to have understood fully that his caprices and prejudices would have to bow to that law. As for "hard war, soft peace," clearly the record shows Lincoln wasn't vindictive. I think his course would have been "hard war, lawful and just peace." I wish Sherman had followed that model.

I'll be thinking about this book for a while. It gives a picture of a very complicated man. I still like and admire Sherman. That's strange, because he was vain and a bigot. But, flawed as he was, he loved his soldiers and he helped to save the country. He once said that the southern states ought to thank him, because there was no way they could have survived as an independent nation. The South ought to thank him for prevented it from committing suicide, Sherman said. I like that.

Narration leaves much to be desired.

I thought the narrator was joking at first...hours upon hours of less than desired accent interpretations.