This powerful and breathtaking novel is the story of four cadets who have become bloodbrothers. Together they will encounter the hell of hazing and the rabid, raunchy, and dangerously secretive atmosphere of an arrogant and proud military institute. They will experience the violence. The passion. The rage. The friendship. The loyalty. The betrayal. Together, they will brace themselves for the brutal transition to manhood... and one will not survive.
With all the dramatic brilliance he brought to The Great Santini, Pat Conroy sweeps you into the turbulent world of these four friends - and draws you deep into the heart of his rebellious hero, Will McLean, an outsider forging his personal code of honor, who falls in love with a whimsical beauty... and who undergoes a transition more remarkable then he ever imagined possible.
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“Reading Pat Conroy is like watching Michelangelo paint the Sistine Chapel." (Houston Chronicle)
“The Lords of Discipline is, simply, an American classic." (Larry King)
I like to listen to adventure stories and funny stories. I have a real preference for travel tales and sometimes even enjoy a good mystery. I love fiction, but also like to learn facts. I like all kinds of stories. Follow me, if you do too!
I highly recommend this book for anyone who likes mysteries and military stories. Since these are 2 of my favorite genres, I was quite drawn to the story. The protagonist is Will McLean, a young man who is going through a major military "rite of passage" as a cadet at a famous military academy. As a senior cadet, Will's "plebe" year still haunts him and now he is selected for the daunting task of protecting the academies' first black cadet. His challenges don't stop there, however. He has also begun a relationship with a young lady who is pregnant out of wedlock with unknown man's child. He doesn't struggle alone, he has 3 roommates - 2 Yankees and a "honey prince" of dubious sexual orientation - to whom he has sworn unquestionable loyalty. But as the story unfolds, it becomes obvious to Will that "trust, loyalty and honor" can take on different meanings in the cloistered world of military cadets.
As a product of the "South" - The Carolina Military Institute is steeped in tradition and produces tough young military officers - or does it? Just what is it the "makes the man" - the questions answered by the end of story will challenge the way you look at all "traditional" institutions and what creates a sense of belonging within them.
There is a book I read many years ago called, "The Long Grey Line" which is similar to the "Lords of Discipline". Likewise, the eloquent writing style will, of course, remind one of the "The Great Santini", also written by Pat Conroy.
I liked the narration pretty well except that I felt the female character's voices sounded a bit strained. I guess this is natural when the narrator is a male. Luckily, there are few female characters in this story. Otherwise, the dialogue is witty and quick. The narrator does a good job of bringing the appropriate amount of emotion to the characters.
"A Question of Honor"? "Honor and Discipline"? "Ring of Honor"?
There are times I listen to an audiobook, it captures my imagination, and then somewhere in the middle of the book I realize that a real part of my enjoyment is the voices the narrator gives the characters. This was one of those books. The narrator added to what I found to be a fascinating story.
Life inside a military academy is something I had not given a moments thought to, until I stumbled on this book. Yet I ended up reflecting on philosophical ideas such as 'Does the end justify the means?' and "At what cost self-discipline?'
The book may feel a bit drawn out to some, there are scenes which feel a bit long, and Conroy always loves to fall into flowery prose. But this book caught me and held me, the characters felt real, the emotions they went through were demonstrated in a way I could feel. It's a raw book, but it also comes from the heart.
I will admit that for me, the ending was a bit melodramatic, but overall this was a book I truly "experienced" and it caused me to think deeply. Great listen. And I can't say enough about the narrator, really added to the overall effect.
Canadian girl in Kansas, love audible, books on kindle or kindle fire, and old fashioned books! I enjoy fiction most, mostly books with strong female leads. Favourite authors: Diana Gabaldon, Stephen King, Jodi Picoult, Wally Lamb, Pat Conroy, Andre Dubus III, Lisa Genova, many more!
I would definitely listen to The Lords of Discipline again. When I was a kid I would watch the movie over and over again. The book is so much better. Conroy's prose are beautiful and his story telling abilities are insurmountable. This is fiction at it's very best.
I loved the main character, Will. His toughness as well as his vulnerability and his story telling ability are mesmerizing.
Dan John Miller has the perfect voice for the main character as well as the other cadets and characters. He does a phenomenal job in bringing the South to life. The suspense mounts and the voices are personified perfectly.
The film is called 'The Lords of Discipline' and I can't imagine anything better than the name of the book.
This book is a true classic. I was surprised that many teachers use this book in their high school curriculum. This is a must read for anyone with a voracious appetite for impeccable fiction.
The non-linear format confused me several times throughout the story, and I had to check to see if the chapters were mixed out of order, but it just flashed back and forth at times that I didn't agree with. The writing is okay, better than okay, but it seems to take a long time to delve through the harshness of it all, and I keep waiting to come out the other end. multiple story lines keep the interest. The reader is okay, does a very good job of recognizable voices for main characters. I will say that the characters are fleshed out and feel real. A lot of swearing as might be expected. some explicit details of hazing that I did not need to hear, but added to the details. All in all, it is admirable effort, but not my favorite subject.
Utterly beautiful coming-of-age story and a love-letter to the city of Charleston. The narration by Dan John Miller is excellent. I fear whatever I read next, apart from a classic, is going to suffer greatly by comparison.
What a wonderful "read"! Brought back many memories!
The narrator did a superb job with the exception of pronunciation of military and Citadel-specific phrases.
Each time I heard "as you were" and "shako", I couldn't help but cringe as it grated across my eardrums like the screeching of chalk across the chalkboard.
It's a small, pedantic complaint... Yet any former cadet of "The Institute" would no doubt experience the same distaste.
Nonetheless, overall praise for an excellent novel, and an excellent reading of it!
A Friend of St. Paul
I highly recommend this book, and reach far beyond all expectations and I found Conroy's use of the English language truly beautiful and powerfully delivered by the narrator. It is one of those books that I will return to and read again, hopefully sometime in the near future. This book has inspired me to read anything Pat Conroy has ever written, including his cookbook, which I have to admit is not my forte.
clever, intelligent, thoughtful
South of Broad, Pat Conroy. Amazing character development, psychological
Great differentiation of characters. Pace
Yes! Too long, however. Listened on a long road trip and made the trip go fast and was very enjoyable to pass the time.
Can't go wrong with Pat Conroy.
Amy Life long avid reader, especially of poetry, literary and popular fiction, historical fiction, mystery/suspense, and some non-fiction.
The narration was simply superb! I had previously read this book, but there is something about hearing a "Southern" book read in southern dialogue that makes the story come to life.
The most memorable moments occur when the full story of betrayal is revealed to Will McClain.
My favorite character was Dante Pignetti, the one completely loyal and guileless member of the class of 1967.
The most memorable character was Will McClain. Pat Conroy is a master of character development, and Will is the main character, a young man coming of age.
This is not only a coming of age story but a novel dealing with systemic evil, illustrating the corruption that absolute power brings with it, and the class structure of the Old South as Will McClain learned it in Charleston. In addition, Pat Conroy's prose is poetic and sensual. I fell into this book.
It's a coming of age story at a military school in the south in the 1960s, and a part of the story is the school being integrated. If the n word that rhymes with bigger bothers you, be warned that word is in the book many times. Otherwise, a decent story, decently performed. If you like other Conroy books you'd probably like this too.
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