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The Lords of Discipline | [Pat Conroy]

The Lords of Discipline

This powerful and breathtaking novel is the story of four cadets who have become bloodbrothers. Together they will encounter the hell of hazing and the rabid, raunchy and dangerously secretive atmosphere of an arrogant and proud military institute. They will experience the violence. The passion. The rage. The friendship. The loyalty. The betrayal. Together, they will brace themselves for the brutal transition to manhood... and one will not survive.
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Publisher's Summary

This powerful and breathtaking novel is the story of four cadets who have become bloodbrothers. Together they will encounter the hell of hazing and the rabid, raunchy, and dangerously secretive atmosphere of an arrogant and proud military institute. They will experience the violence. The passion. The rage. The friendship. The loyalty. The betrayal. Together, they will brace themselves for the brutal transition to manhood... and one will not survive.

With all the dramatic brilliance he brought to The Great Santini, Pat Conroy sweeps you into the turbulent world of these four friends - and draws you deep into the heart of his rebellious hero, Will McLean, an outsider forging his personal code of honor, who falls in love with a whimsical beauty... and who undergoes a transition more remarkable then he ever imagined possible.

©2002 Pat Conroy (P)2010 Brilliance Audio, Inc.

What the Critics Say

“Reading Pat Conroy is like watching Michelangelo paint the Sistine Chapel." (Houston Chronicle)

The Lords of Discipline is, simply, an American classic." (Larry King)

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    Robert E. Scarcelle 05-05-11
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    "An amazing book"

    Pat Conroy is simply one of the greatest storytellers I have ever listened to. He is able to make you feel every emotion his characters are feeling. You celebrate their victories, mourn their losses and miss them when the book is complete.

    3 of 3 people found this review helpful
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    Kim Spokane, WA, United States 07-22-12
    Kim Spokane, WA, United States 07-22-12 Member Since 2009

    Addicted to audiobooks & podcasts. 5 Stars=I Loved It, 4 Stars=Enjoyed it Thoroughly, 3=Kinda Good, 2=Bad/Boring, 1=Complete Waste of Credit

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    "I'm feeling ambiguous"

    I'm on the fence with this one - the writing is good and the narration is great - so why wasn't I able to just give it 4 stars all the way across? Maybe it's because this is supposed to be auto-biographical and I had a really hard time buying the author's portrayal of the events. It all seemed so overly romantic and watered-down. I did enjoy 90% of the book, and found myself looking forward to listening - but if the end had come sooner, I wouldn't have been disappointed.

    2 of 2 people found this review helpful
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    Kathy Davis, CA, United States 06-21-11
    Kathy Davis, CA, United States 06-21-11 Member Since 2008
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    "A must read . . . highly recommended!"

    Another winner by Pat Conroy! It s a fascinating story by the author who actually attended and graduated from The Citadel. He assures the reader at the onset of the book that his description of the traditions of the school are as true as he could make it. With believable characters that you really care about and a wonderful narration, this audiobook is one of the most enjoyable I have listened to. It is funny in parts, also sad and harrowing, with a satisfying ending. What more could you ask for?

    2 of 2 people found this review helpful
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    greg Yonkers, NY, United States 09-13-11
    greg Yonkers, NY, United States 09-13-11 Member Since 2006

    Geek, Gamer who hates wasting credits.

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    "Please read this before buying"

    I looked at all the 5 star reviews and spent my credits, so I am warning you dear reader run. I am not sure how this got such good reviews , unless there are lot of military school listeners out there who wanted to relive their past. The writing is so heavy handed and stilted, it seemed very dated by today's books. It is preachy and pedantic style got to me. I see how writing the book was very cathartic for the author but I did not enjoy the retelling of his boyhood. Save your money and run.

    4 of 5 people found this review helpful
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    Katerina Moscow, Russia 06-11-13
    Katerina Moscow, Russia 06-11-13 Member Since 2013
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    "Really great introduction to Pat Conroy's books."
    Would you consider the audio edition of The Lords of Discipline to be better than the print version?

    The book is marvelous, both the audio version and the printed one.I’m not a big fan of military fiction in general and I have to admit that I chose this one because of the narrator Dan John Miller. But when I started to listen and read it simultaneously I couldn’t put it down and finished it in less than 3 days.The narration of this book is just perfect. I can't imagine how it could be better. All characters, male and female alike, sounded perfect, so perfect in fact, that I didn’t just heard, I saw them as they spoke, acted, thought.


    What other book might you compare The Lords of Discipline to and why?

    I don’t remember when I was so moved and captivated by the novel before. The story itself is not just about military college and growing up of young men. It’s about so much more. It’s about acceptance, choices and beliefs, it’s just about life.The brutal honest of the book will make you laugh, cry, bite your lips, dig your nails into your palms and cringe and blush, and it will make you to think over and to question again and again your own honesty and moral codes and that’s in my point of view is the mark of literature masterpiece. And do you really need to compare real masterpiece to anything else?


    Any additional comments?

    All in all I was so impressed that I decided to read more of Pat Conroy’s books and chose to buy audio versions and kindle editions of his two other novels – The Water is Wide, again narrated by Dan John Miller and The Prince of Tide (according to critics one of the best works of Mr. Conroy) narrated by Frank Muller.

    1 of 1 people found this review helpful
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    Larry Montara, CA, United States 04-05-13
    Larry Montara, CA, United States 04-05-13 Member Since 2010
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    "One of the Best Audiobooks Ever!"

    Pat Conroys writes prose that sounds like poetry when read by Dan John Miller. Although The Lords of Discipline is often referred to as a "coming of age" story it is much more than that. It is told retrospectively so the sensibilities of an adult man inform the life events of a boy. What is remarkable about that feat is that it is done without cynicism.

    Pat nails "it" in this book. It being life.

    1 of 1 people found this review helpful
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    Annual Colts Neck, NJ, United States 12-20-12
    Annual Colts Neck, NJ, United States 12-20-12 Member Since 2011
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    "Excellent"

    This book was excellent excellent excellent! I couldn't stop listening. The story and narration were both top notch!

    1 of 1 people found this review helpful
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    Lyn LADY LAKE, FL, United States 09-08-12
    Lyn LADY LAKE, FL, United States 09-08-12 Member Since 2007

    Tell us about yourself!

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    "Another Pat Conroy hit !"
    Would you listen to The Lords of Discipline again? Why?

    Actually this was the second time, yes probably once more as it is a timeless story


    What other book might you compare The Lords of Discipline to and why?

    Conroy's "Great Santini" whose characters were as unlikeable as these were likeable. Both were tinged with Catholicism, honor, duty, concience


    Which character – as performed by Dan John Miller – was your favorite?

    Probably Pig because he was so complex


    Did you have an extreme reaction to this book? Did it make you laugh or cry?

    it made my insides twist, what is right or wrong in what circumstance?


    Any additional comments?

    Pat Conroy never fails to satisfy.

    1 of 1 people found this review helpful
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    Reney Dunedin, FL, United States 07-28-12
    Reney Dunedin, FL, United States 07-28-12 Member Since 2010

    I like to listen to adventure stories and funny stories. I have a real preference for travel tales and sometimes even enjoy a good mystery. I love fiction, but also like to learn facts. I like all kinds of stories. Follow me, if you do too!

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    "Mystery and Intrigue at the Military Academy"
    Would you recommend this audiobook to a friend? If so, why?

    I highly recommend this book for anyone who likes mysteries and military stories. Since these are 2 of my favorite genres, I was quite drawn to the story. The protagonist is Will McLean, a young man who is going through a major military "rite of passage" as a cadet at a famous military academy. As a senior cadet, Will's "plebe" year still haunts him and now he is selected for the daunting task of protecting the academies' first black cadet. His challenges don't stop there, however. He has also begun a relationship with a young lady who is pregnant out of wedlock with unknown man's child. He doesn't struggle alone, he has 3 roommates - 2 Yankees and a "honey prince" of dubious sexual orientation - to whom he has sworn unquestionable loyalty. But as the story unfolds, it becomes obvious to Will that "trust, loyalty and honor" can take on different meanings in the cloistered world of military cadets.

    As a product of the "South" - The Carolina Military Institute is steeped in tradition and produces tough young military officers - or does it? Just what is it the "makes the man" - the questions answered by the end of story will challenge the way you look at all "traditional" institutions and what creates a sense of belonging within them.
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    What other book might you compare The Lords of Discipline to and why?

    There is a book I read many years ago called, "The Long Grey Line" which is similar to the "Lords of Discipline". Likewise, the eloquent writing style will, of course, remind one of the "The Great Santini", also written by Pat Conroy.


    What does Dan John Miller bring to the story that you wouldn’t experience if you just read the book?

    I liked the narration pretty well except that I felt the female character's voices sounded a bit strained. I guess this is natural when the narrator is a male. Luckily, there are few female characters in this story. Otherwise, the dialogue is witty and quick. The narrator does a good job of bringing the appropriate amount of emotion to the characters.


    If you could rename The Lords of Discipline, what would you call it?

    "A Question of Honor"? "Honor and Discipline"? "Ring of Honor"?


    1 of 1 people found this review helpful
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    Niel CEDAR HILLS, UT, United States 07-19-12
    Niel CEDAR HILLS, UT, United States 07-19-12 Member Since 2005
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    "Raw, heartfelt, and a great performance"

    There are times I listen to an audiobook, it captures my imagination, and then somewhere in the middle of the book I realize that a real part of my enjoyment is the voices the narrator gives the characters. This was one of those books. The narrator added to what I found to be a fascinating story.

    Life inside a military academy is something I had not given a moments thought to, until I stumbled on this book. Yet I ended up reflecting on philosophical ideas such as 'Does the end justify the means?' and "At what cost self-discipline?'

    The book may feel a bit drawn out to some, there are scenes which feel a bit long, and Conroy always loves to fall into flowery prose. But this book caught me and held me, the characters felt real, the emotions they went through were demonstrated in a way I could feel. It's a raw book, but it also comes from the heart.

    I will admit that for me, the ending was a bit melodramatic, but overall this was a book I truly "experienced" and it caused me to think deeply. Great listen. And I can't say enough about the narrator, really added to the overall effect.

    1 of 1 people found this review helpful
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