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Fears of a Setting Sun
- The Disillusionment of America's Founders
- Narrated by: Keith Sellon-Wright
- Length: 9 hrs and 16 mins
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Thaddeus Stevens was among the first to see the Civil War as an opportunity for a second American revolution - a chance to remake the country as a genuine multiracial democracy. As one of the foremost abolitionists in Congress in the years leading up to the war, he was a leader of the young Republican Party’s radical wing, fighting for anti-slavery and anti-racist policies long before party colleagues like Abraham Lincoln endorsed them. These policies - including welcoming black men into the Union’s armies - would prove crucial to the Union war effort.
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Excellent bio of a political hero
- By Anonymous User on 03-11-21
By: Bruce Levine
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The Glorious Cause: The American Revolution: 1763-1789
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- Narrated by: Robert Fass
- Length: 26 hrs and 56 mins
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The first book to appear in the illustrious Oxford History of the United States, this critically-acclaimed volume - a finalist for the Pulitzer Prize - offers an unsurpassed history of the Revolutionary War and the birth of the American republic.
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Strong History Rich With Behind The Scenes Details
- By John on 10-06-11
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The Words That Made Us
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- By: Akhil Reed Amar
- Narrated by: Fajer Al-Kaisi
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In The Words That Made Us, Akhil Reed Amar unites history and law in a vivid narrative of the biggest constitutional questions early Americans confronted, and he expertly assesses the answers they offered. His account of the document's origins and consolidation is a guide for anyone seeking to properly understand America's Constitution today.
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And the words that made Us
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First Principles
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On the morning after the 2016 presidential election, Thomas Ricks awoke with a few questions on his mind: What kind of nation did we now have? Is it what was designed or intended by the nation's founders? Trying to get as close to the source as he could, Ricks decided to go back and read the philosophy and literature that shaped the founders' thinking, and the letters they wrote to each other debating these crucial works—among them the Iliad, Plutarch's Lives, and the works of Xenophon, Epicurus, Aristotle, Cato, and Cicero.
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Excellent book, opinionated epilogue.
- By Noetic Seeker on 01-23-21
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Break It Up
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The novel and fiery thesis of Break It Up is simple: the United States has never lived up to its name - and never will. The disunionist impulse may have found its greatest expression in the Civil War, but as Break It Up shows, the seduction of secession wasn't limited to the South or the 19th century. With a scholar's command and a journalist's curiosity, Kreitner takes readers on a revolutionary journey through American history, revealing the power and persistence of disunion movements in every era and region.
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Completely Partisan
- By Patrick Tobin on 11-06-22
By: Richard Kreitner
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Over the course of his life, James Madison changed the United States three times: First, he designed the Constitution, led the struggle for its adoption and ratification, then drafted the Bill of Rights. As an older, cannier politician, he cofounded the original Republican party, setting the course of American political partisanship. Finally, having pioneered a foreign policy based on economic sanctions, he took the United States into a high-risk conflict, becoming the first wartime president and, despite the odds, winning.
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Cogently organized, meticulously balanced
- By Diana Black Kennedy on 06-15-18
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American Sphinx
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For a man who insisted that life on the public stage was not what he had in mind, Thomas Jefferson certainly spent a great deal of time in the spotlight. Historian Joseph J. Ellis sifts the facts shrewdly from the legends and the rumors, treading a path between vilification and hero worship in order to formulate a plausible portrait of the man who still today "hover[s] over the political scene like one of those dirigibles cruising above a crowded football stadium, flashing words of inspiration to both teams".
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So: they did the DNA and … time to change appendix
- By Jamanosa on 11-03-21
By: Joseph J. Ellis
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James Madison and the Making of America
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In James Madison and the Making of America, historian Kevin Gutzman looks beyond the way James Madison is traditionally seen - as "The Father of the Constitution” - to find a more complex and sometimes contradictory portrait of this influential Founding Father and the ways in which he influenced the spirit of today's United States.
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Not a traditional biography
- By David on 12-14-12
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The Quartet
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From Pulitzer Prize-winning American historian Joseph J. Ellis, the unexpected story of why the thirteen colonies, having just fought off the imposition of a distant centralized governing power, would decide to subordinate themselves anew.
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bias is not good history
- By Craig on 01-24-18
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The Idea of America
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The preeminent historian of the American Revolution explains why it remains the most significant event in our history
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Sophisticated analyses
- By Roger on 01-25-12
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Lincoln's Mentors
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A novel and brilliant look at how Abraham Lincoln mastered the art of leadership: acclaimed historian Michael J. Gerhardt, who appeared during the impeachment proceedings of President Trump, reveals how a group of five men mentored an obscure lawyer with no executive experience to become American’s greatest leader
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Interesting book
- By Brian on 03-07-21
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- Kyle Eschenroeder
- 12-30-22
Fun and surprisingly inspiring book about the founding fathers and their changing views.
The founding fathers disagreed on a lot, had different ideals and expectations of the American citizen, mostly expected the Constitution to not survive very long, … and we’re otherwise imperfect humans. Works a bit like Paul Johnson’s Intellectuals, but without so much of the scandal. Invigorating read for an American concerned with the current political and cultural situation.
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- Amazon Customer
- 10-17-21
Fun Read
Great look at how politics have been politics forever and also how adversaries come together and sacrifice around a common cause only to find regret when their heads clear.
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- kpa
- 03-04-24
A different perspective on the founders
This fresh perspective, focusing on the founder's doubts and fears, is not so much new information as a different emphasis, but it's a salutary re-reading of familiar material that provides a thought-provoking perspective for the political crisis we're currently experiencing.
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- Nelson
- 06-12-23
Hopeful
This was not the simplest listen, but at the conclusion it is highly important and left me hopeful that the current state of our country is hopeful. Also that there has always been work to do as there is now to ensure it continues.
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- Mike Sinks
- 12-14-21
Quick Read to Round Out Knowledge of the Founders
This is a worthy listen that will fill in some gaps in understanding. It was popular in the past to deify the American founding generation. In the more recent past, it became popular to tear down this facade of infallibility. This book sits in the middle. It reveals that these men had similar fears - fears that echo today when one watches the news. A few key takeaways:
1) Even the Founders became grumpy old men by the end.
2) Partisanship is as old as the Republic itself and has virtually always been an enemy of good sense.
3) The Constitution remains a living document. The epilogue says it very well. The founding generation did not think themselves more enlightened than those who would follow.
A worthy listen/read.
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- Gabriel
- 08-06-21
Relevant for our time
This book claims, or at least is claimed by many reviewers, to describe disillusionment of the founders with the Constitution and the government that it created. There is a little of that here, but in truth most of the so-called disillusionment was factional fighting between the Federalists and Republicans over the scope, tenor and nature of the new Federal government. But in that light, it's a very helpful review of the partisan argument that has dogged American politics since the founding.
There isn't much new here, other than emphasis on disagreement, rather than on agreement or accomplishment. But it's a great listen and good refresher on the founders' struggle to find common ideology and goals to animate their new creation. Highly recommended.
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- Damon
- 11-15-21
Renewed my faith in the American experiment
The book goes in depth explaining the strong sentiments of the founding fathers and their fears for the future. The book provides historical references which are an excellent refresher on the big challenges of their day. Here we are still resolving those conflicts, weaving a course through the tapestry of history. The past can teach us something about the present.
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- Brandon Gresham
- 07-06-22
if you are anxious about our current political...
if you are anxious about our current political climate, read this for a bit of consolation. you will also be armed to combat the arguments posed from political extremists of every stripe: even our Founders couldn't agree, but they nevertheless worked on finding areas of compromise, in the interest of patriotism, love of country, and hope.
if our Founders couldn't agree but nevertheless worked toward compromise, who are any of us to think we are somehow better or wiser to demand a position of non compromise?
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