Caroline as always was spot on. She offered a lot of information about the Saints who have influenced her and ways to access what they've experienced. She explained herself well. She was thorough and very easy to follow.
Andrew Harvey, on the other hand, had me very close to screaming "WILL YOU JUST SHUT UP," more than a few times. It is unfortunate because he had some very valuable experiences and insights, but because he does not respect his listener enough to say it in as few words as possible, he is almost impossible to follow. The words "And" and "Because" should be banned from his vocabulary...permanently. They do not serve his message. I get that he is passionate, but to have more of an impact, or in my case, an impact at all, he needs to pare down his message, distill it, as Caroline does, most of the time.
Just Caroline, not Mr. Havey.
Yes, learn to be concise.
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