Audiobook. Over forty hours of listening. Love and War is the second book in a three part trilogy regarding the American Civil War. Although historically accurate, the primary purpose of this story is not to convey history. It is rather to convey the effects of history of the lives of ordinary people. Sweeping and accurate, Love and War pulls the characters from North and South through the war years as human, flawed, and victims all.
Expect the epic-tale style of writing, a different type of presentation than the modern novel. Better, in my opinion, affording the reader the opportunity to savor the time and thoughts of the characters and the author.
Listened to this audiobook at 1.5 speed. Grover Gardner, although a terrific narrator for the series, is a bit slow for my taste.
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It is really necessary to read this series in sequence. This book, 2nd in the series, would be hard to fully appreciate if you hadn't already read/listened to the 1rst book. Jakes doesn't give sufficient background summaries to let the reader have a real understanding of the characters' histories and complex relationships.
Grover Gardner is outstanding as a narrator! However the story wavered between being a history text (somewhat dry) and a horrifying condemnation of man's inhumanity to man. There were barbarous acts on both sides of the Civil War. The constant horror or the war was exhausting and heartbreaking to listen to. I can't even begin to fully understand the actual reality that our ancestors lived (or died) through.
My 3 stars for story, are based on the very wearing nature of the heinous acts described. This book is quite likely very true and history based ... but I listen to books for entertainment and found much of this installment very hard to hear. If you are a history buff and love good historical insights that are well researched, then this book is probably for you. Just not for me.
I do recommend listening to Jakes' afterword. Even if you give up early, don't skip this last chapter. He is a thoughtful author who demonstrates a deep caring for the authenticity of his work and the reader's overall experience.
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White people only. I have never been over-sensitive to racial slurs and/or racism in literature, as long as it is done in the proper context. This book, however, takes racial hatred and ignorance to a level that I found hard to bear.
Well, I thought it was going to be John Jakes" Heaven and Hell", the 3rd book in this series. I'd already purchased it. But I'm returning BOTH books.
Grover Gardner was outstanding. His mastery of the southern and northern accents was great. Plus there are so many different characters in this book, yet he was able to give each its own identity.
ANGER. Anger at a level that I haven't experienced in decades. I actually thought I might hurt somebody by the middle of Part 2 - which was as much as I could take.
This book is very well written and researched. However, John Jakes went a bit far in his depiction of racism among American whites. I have never EVER before been upset by the use of the word "nigger" in books or the description of the oppression and cruelty endured by my people as slaves in this country. I loved Shelby Foote's "Civil War" series because it gave an accurate, unbiased, and non-stereotypical account of that period in American history. I have many books about racism - both fact and fiction - in my Audible.com Library of over 1,400 audiobooks but I don't know what it is about this book which took me over the cusp of what I could handle. Not just as a black person, but as a HUMAN BEING. I sincerely hope that Jakes exaggerated the cruelty, the hatefulness, and the ignorance of white people towards black people in the years before, during and after the Civil War. This account doesn't stress enough the economic necessity for slavery, which I understood, if I didn't actually agree with. Here, Jakes depicts the only need for slavery was because whites merely hated blacks so much - that the only place for us was in chains or having our women raped or, as one character states in this book, to be be freed only to be shot and killed on sight. I was nauseated by John Jakes' characterization of white people towards blacks. No book nor movie has ever made me this sick in my stomach. I'm even more stunned by the fact that I seem to be the only person appalled by this book. This story could have been written without the level of hatred that it depicts. I am left to wonder what was really in Jakes' heart when he wrote this book. It also disturbs me to think that white people are STILL this awful and hateful. For the first time in my life, I am afraid....
I'm a mom. I have drama in my life. I don't want books with the F-bomb, nor graphic violence. I read for fun and to bring my family together. I read for reducing stress levels. We have never had a television in our home and our children are now mid twenties to 19. We listen together and look for belly-wrenching laughter. So what is it like to live without a TV? Awesomely educational and inspirational. Each new book is a marvel.
Yes and no. Neither can be put down easily.
I just love this narrator. I was really worried because I love Grover Gardner as Andy Carpenter and I wondered if I could adjust to listen to him as a Civil War era narrator and character. He really made this book enjoyable.
I laughed and cried. The characters are so believable and they show the extremes of humanity - passions run deep. There were times I wasn't sure I could listen to the more graphic parts of the book but they did not last long and they were as tempered as can be and still invoke a strong emotion from the reader.
I really enjoyed North and South but this was too slow. All the characters had been developed in book 1 and there wasn't enough depth in the story to keep me interested. Either shorten the story or add depthj.
I might try ------ with a different series.
I had enjoyed North and South, and looked forward to this sequel. The reader was good, and I enjoy historical novels and the Civil War in particular. I stayed with this story for about 14 hours before I decided that I was too bored to go on. At first, I thought that it was the long recap of the first book that made it dull. This book had too many characters doing too many different things to keep momentum going. Too little happened in the "war" parts, and the "love" was pretty sparse and unengaging. Maybe it would have gotten better, but I was not going to waste any more time. The fact that I considered listening to more is the reason I gave it two stars. I had cared about some characters from the first novel, but this one did not sustain that interest.
“What you do speaks so loudly that I cannot hear what you say.” ~Ralph Waldo Emerson
While it is a good follow up and worth the listen, there are such heartbreaking moments that alter the course of the whole story. It is hard to imagine how the author will continue the story when the main elements have altered completely. This story almost completely ties up all the original stories that one could speculate that this should have been the last book in the story.
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Yes, I would recommend this audiobook to a friend because of the two families who the novel has been centered around. This made the novel easier to follow. The Hazard's from the North and the Main's from the South. These families become the best of friend's when two young meet at West Point. Their friendship carried over after leaving West Point. Their extended family members were soon included and that two man friendship began to grow. Letters and visits strengthened the bond. That bond would be tested time and time again when the Civil War began. After the Civil War ended the structure of both families had suffered. This audiobook presented an extraordinary description of how the Civil War was fought. The Hazard's and the Main's filled the pages of how these two families had to fight on opposite sides and still try to remain friends when the war was over.
The consistency of keeping the Hazard's and the Main's involved during the war. There were interludes between both of the families on and off the battlefield. When the Civil War ended the two families will have to struggle in order to find their way back to each other. The separation caused by the war will be difficult to fix.
Charles. He was visible during many of the battles. His conscience was frequently tested. Charles is faced with multifaceted decisions when the war ends. The descriptions of Charles during the war and after the war are a worthy listen.
Pitting Friends and Families ...... One Against the Other
The novel provides quite a history of the Civil War. Having the two families to concentrate on, made the listen a good one. The many descriptions of the battles, guns used, loyalties between men fighting side by side, the bond of trust that solidifies the honor of man and country, North or South. These scenes were written in such a way that I found it enjoyable to listen. I didn't get bogged down in too much rhetoric, that I felt enough was enough. I wanted to continue until the book ended. I'm looking forward to the last novel in the trilogy.
I am not a fan of history. The characters were dynamic.
This is a very long book. So its a good value for the money. The narrator is great. The characters fabulous. I am not sure how historically accurate the story is as I am not into history. However I thoroughly enjoyed the series.
Addicted to Dickens, Charles Dickens. I've listened to all his novels at least twice. Our Mutual Friend and Little Dorrit are my favorite.
United States Nightmare
Charles Maine...the different situation he went through and the way he went through and came out of them.
No, only the North & South Triology
Constance Hazzard...she is very lovely lady and would enjoy her company.
John Jakes Triology - North & South, Love & War, Heaven & Hell. What amazing novels!!! Far much better than the tv show which starred Patrick Swayze (RIP a great actor), it was a wonderful tv show but the books are better because of the more details. The books tell of things that the show could not. Please use your credits to listen to them. They are as good as Larry McMurtry's Lonesome Dove series, which John Jakes quotes in the third book of the series. Also, what I loved about the novels is how John Jakes mention many times Charles Dickens and several of his novels.