I'd give it a plot. This one seems to be sorely missing one, or at least it's moving so slow that it's difficult to find. (Reminds me of Loki being stuck in the tree, moving through the gate a fraction of an inch each day.)
I'd make it tighter, more focused.
Eh--I don't care for Stefan Rudnicki's reading of this--he has a beautiful voice, but it's just not right for these characters. Emily Rankin does an okay job.
I'm disappointed. Although I usually like Orson Scott Card's writing, I don't think I'll be buying these audiobooks anymore. Both this Gate Thief series and the Pathfinder series started off with an interesting premise and a pretty good story, but with both second books I had the same problem; they're just too slow. I'm not even sure I'll finish this one.
This is clearly a religious allegory. The author seems to be a bit self-righteous and out of touch with most teenagers. This combination makes the magic seem more realistic than the interactions amongst the characters.
I listen on my way in to work in the morning, and my way home in the evening.
As I'm listening through the book, I don't feel like there is a whole lot of character development within this book specifically. In the first book of the series, we got to spend a lot of time with the characters, and really get why and how they reacted to things. In The Gate Thief, I'm constantly feeling like people are doing random things against their character for no reason what so ever. OSC Keeps trying to portray Danny as this kid who wants to do the right thing and be a stand up guy, but then there are parts of the story where he acts like a little brat. Specifically the way Danny treated coach leader, and acted when joining the track team. I know leader's a jerk, but the mark of someone truly good, is their ability to respectfully handle a situation without making them self look like an ass. I would like to see reaffirmations of how the character behaves and interacts with people and let me be the judge of whether that person's choices were good choices or not. I felt like I was being Pushed and prodded towards Danny being a really stand up guy, but his actions that he took half the time felt the opposite.
The book was rather short compared to other books I've listened to, and since the book was, in my mind mediocre, it about evened out.
I know that in most books your going to encounter periods of things you enjoy and things that bore you, etc. Because I often listen to audio books during my commute, I often can judge a book by how often I walk into my house and keep the audio book running on my phone. If I'm listening outside of my car, it often means that something interested me to the point that I really wanted to know more. That so far in this book has only happened once to me.
I read The Lost Gate and really liked it. So, I was waiting anxiously for this book. Things take forever to develop. The author spends a lot of time dealing with teenage angst. I think what it boils down to is a whole lot of talk and not a lot of action.
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So I loved the first book in this series - it was full of action, was set in a really interesting world, and the plotline moved at a quick clip - which is perhaps why I was so disappointed as I read this one. The plot just moved so... slow. And so much of it felt like artificial setup for something that happens later in the book, but that just didn't feel like it had the crescendo that the first book had.
To be fair, after listening to the post-book message by Orson Scott Card himself, I fully understand WHY he wrote this book the way that he did - he's setting up for an epic Book 3 where all of the setup will pay off. I fully intend to pick up that book, but that still doesn't make me like this one any more. The teenage angst, sexual frustration, and laggard pace almost turned me to deleting the book from my phone... but plow through it, as I think we'll all rewarded in the next book of this series.
I've known Scott personally for decades and have always enjoyed his books. The first book in this series started in a very entertaining manner. This second book is harder to follow and is not nearly as fleshed out as it needs to be. Scott's forward said he rewrote the original draft, but the book reads like he was trying to squeeze 2 books into 1 volume. Hopefully there will be a be a third book that fills in the blanks left in the 2nd book. Otherwise, typical OSC.
I would, if my friend has nothing else to do.
Yes, because he is very good. It's just that this book wasn't as good as "The lost gate". It's a total different rythm. It's like somebody else wrote it. I love the way he writes but the story was just too flat.
When he is in a trance and remember what Wad learned in Egypt. I liked the twist, but he didn't delivered at the end.
For Orson, try to go the way you did in "the lost gate" especially the first part. It was VERY GOOD.
Read to learn
- Good story
- Easy to keep track of whats going on
- Intriguing plot twists
- Exceptional main character
- Card does a lot of sexual (pre-pubescent) tension, not his thing
- Weird / kiddy feel to the book
Overall, card does a lot of kids books, so i kind of expected the cons, but it doesn't change the fact that the simplistic story and sexual tension is beyond weird for Cards writing.
Good book though, highly recommend any Card fans to read it, overall 4/5.
I was reading/listening to both this and Enchantment at the same time. Was surprised to see that both characters were young adult males that were virgins and both were jogger/runners. Both don't know what to do with the attractive woman/women around. Both are very insecure and immature but both are trying to do right as they see it. I am guessing Orson Scott Card is writing out his juvenile fantasies, or a fantasy reflection of his youth. I really hate in when authors use characters so similar in two different books that are not a series. Get some originality! Will NOT be buying the next book.
NOT write about teenage sex. Used very different character.
Sex scene and every scene where he talked about sex. I am not a prude but I think it is just annoying and kinda gross to listen to the thought process of sex from the viewpoint of a teenage boy. eeew.
This is the first time in years that I've given up on a book, but I'm halfway through this one and I just can't do it. The premise is interesting, but there's a lot of extraneous information that doesn't seem relevant to the story. Worse, none of the characters - and I mean none - have any redeeming qualities whatsoever. There's nothing to like about any of them! Even the friends of the main character, Danny North, all come across as being vapid and grasping, so I'm having a hard time getting engaged. The character 'Wad' held my interest for a time, but unfortunately those times were few and far between.
I can appreciate the amount of work that has gone into this book, but alas it's just not for me.