I listen on my way in to work in the morning, and my way home in the evening.
As I'm listening through the book, I don't feel like there is a whole lot of character development within this book specifically. In the first book of the series, we got to spend a lot of time with the characters, and really get why and how they reacted to things. In The Gate Thief, I'm constantly feeling like people are doing random things against their character for no reason what so ever. OSC Keeps trying to portray Danny as this kid who wants to do the right thing and be a stand up guy, but then there are parts of the story where he acts like a little brat. Specifically the way Danny treated coach leader, and acted when joining the track team. I know leader's a jerk, but the mark of someone truly good, is their ability to respectfully handle a situation without making them self look like an ass. I would like to see reaffirmations of how the character behaves and interacts with people and let me be the judge of whether that person's choices were good choices or not. I felt like I was being Pushed and prodded towards Danny being a really stand up guy, but his actions that he took half the time felt the opposite.
The book was rather short compared to other books I've listened to, and since the book was, in my mind mediocre, it about evened out.
I know that in most books your going to encounter periods of things you enjoy and things that bore you, etc. Because I often listen to audio books during my commute, I often can judge a book by how often I walk into my house and keep the audio book running on my phone. If I'm listening outside of my car, it often means that something interested me to the point that I really wanted to know more. That so far in this book has only happened once to me.
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So I loved the first book in this series - it was full of action, was set in a really interesting world, and the plotline moved at a quick clip - which is perhaps why I was so disappointed as I read this one. The plot just moved so... slow. And so much of it felt like artificial setup for something that happens later in the book, but that just didn't feel like it had the crescendo that the first book had.
To be fair, after listening to the post-book message by Orson Scott Card himself, I fully understand WHY he wrote this book the way that he did - he's setting up for an epic Book 3 where all of the setup will pay off. I fully intend to pick up that book, but that still doesn't make me like this one any more. The teenage angst, sexual frustration, and laggard pace almost turned me to deleting the book from my phone... but plow through it, as I think we'll all rewarded in the next book of this series.
I've known Scott personally for decades and have always enjoyed his books. The first book in this series started in a very entertaining manner. This second book is harder to follow and is not nearly as fleshed out as it needs to be. Scott's forward said he rewrote the original draft, but the book reads like he was trying to squeeze 2 books into 1 volume. Hopefully there will be a be a third book that fills in the blanks left in the 2nd book. Otherwise, typical OSC.
I would, if my friend has nothing else to do.
Yes, because he is very good. It's just that this book wasn't as good as "The lost gate". It's a total different rythm. It's like somebody else wrote it. I love the way he writes but the story was just too flat.
When he is in a trance and remember what Wad learned in Egypt. I liked the twist, but he didn't delivered at the end.
For Orson, try to go the way you did in "the lost gate" especially the first part. It was VERY GOOD.
Read to learn
- Good story
- Easy to keep track of whats going on
- Intriguing plot twists
- Exceptional main character
- Card does a lot of sexual (pre-pubescent) tension, not his thing
- Weird / kiddy feel to the book
Overall, card does a lot of kids books, so i kind of expected the cons, but it doesn't change the fact that the simplistic story and sexual tension is beyond weird for Cards writing.
Good book though, highly recommend any Card fans to read it, overall 4/5.
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If you liked the first one you will like this one. I found it to be slow, VERY slow, but looking back so was the first one. I suggest you brush up on HOW he stole Wad's gates because it was mentioned about a million times in this book and I actually had to stop and go listen again to the first one because it was confusing.
There is a nice after word by the writter who explained why the book was so late in coming out. The story itself was a nice continuation of the first book, more self discovery, a few more adult things happening, overall it was good to revisit this mithermage world.
I listened to the first book only two weeks before this one and it flowed nicely from book to book. This is one of those book series that is one large story and not true series. The story line picks up where The Lost Gate left off and continues on nicely and end with me looking for the next part of the download.
If you liked The Lost Gate you will like this one too.
Yes and No, I recommended the first book in the series to a friend and they loved it as well. I still have hopes that the series will get back on track and be as good as what hooked me the firs time around.
I think Stefan's voice is unusually deep and may not represent a young character like Danny North that well. His voice was sometimes monotone and I found myself thinknig of other things and not listening to the story.
It was good, but not great.
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Previous reviewers have done a good job at getting to the good/bad of this book and you and I both know that if you liked The Lost Gate, book 1 in this series, you will probably pick up Book 2 no matter what the reviews say. For what it is worth, I say "Go for it - Book 2 is good enough to expect that Book 3 could be great". It's not Ender, but what is? Poor Card will have to endure the comparison of all subsequent books to his masterpiece, but there are worse problems an author could have.
I love Card's Ender, Alvin Maker, and Homecoming series' and Mithermages does have a likable young male protagonist in common with those older series'. Sadly, Mithermages is lacking ANY great young female protagonist to balance the story. There are some interesting adult women in the mix, but Card has oddly chosen to make almost all of the teenage girls in The Gate Thief a strange bunch of groupies fighting for a chance to have Danny's baby. Card gives some explanation of that in the afterword but I don't buy it - those girls are not interesting characters and they just don't ring true with me. The teenager dialog is especially awkward (borderline offensive) and the book would have been better without it.
Both Stefan Rudnicki and Emily Rankin do a fine job with narration, but I had a distinct preference for Rankin and really wish she had just narrated the whole book.The narration is divided by location - Rudnicki reads the sections that take place on Earth; Rankin reads the sections set in Westil. As much as I enjoy Rudnicki, he has one of the deepest voices I've ever heard and although he does a game job of voicing women, children, and adolescents, he really only sounds natural speaking for an adult man. Strangely, the only adult men with any significant dialog in the novel do almost all their speaking while in Westil, Rankin's sections of the book.
I'm seeing more potential in the Mithermages series than the Pathfinder series so if you are jonesing for some OSC, you will probably get a decent fix from The Gate Thief.
OSC protagonists tend to have common themes, special young boys, Intelligent wise and insightful beyond their years. Most of this book the reader is following along with Danny making insights into the nature of Magery and its mechanics with the interactions between the "in-self" and "out-self". To me this rounds out the mechanics, leaving only the final revelation on the nature and origin of magic/the enemy missing. Meaning that the next book, rather than struggle through definitions of character and powers, the world will be set loose to the machinations of powerful mages to drive an action packed third novel.
I've come to look forward to each Afterward from OSC. Many of his afterwards are explanations of thought processes he had while writing that make you feel connected to the writing process. The afterward explains the what I felt was a discontinuity between the first and second novel.