I want to know about the adult characters, and the world their from. What's the motivation of the bad guy, he has no purpose other than just being a jerk to the universe.
Card created a pretty unique world with and interesting take on all the world religions. The story and concept are what I liked the most. There are adult characters that are very intriguing who I think would make for much more interesting a story.
What I didn't care too much for were the young characters and their interactions which is 90% of the book. The main character, Danny North, is morally ambiguous from the start but not very interesting. His friends in high school spend most of their time as a sounding board for Danny to make his moral judgments. This results in an inordinate amount of time spent listening to high schoolers stand around discussing logic and philosophies far beyond them interspersed with fart and sex jokes.
The first book isn't that bad, but by the time you get to the third you find yourself wanting to hit fast forward through these interactions.
This trilogy is one of OSC’s better works. I get annoyed with the paragraph after paragraph of character introspection that OSC has gravitated towards. The “character development” adds nothing to the story except to make what should be one great book into three boring books. Except for a couple of chapters this story is clean and moves along well.
That being said it felt like OSC didn’t know how to end the story. There were loose ends left open, and the magic system felt like it was breaking down into nonsense. None of the loose ends were plot flaws and in the end the magic system held up though, so it is a good read.
If you like OSC I recommend this trilogy
Why choose tampons? That was unnecessary!!! Your writing has gone downhill fast!!! Not sure I'll read another of your books.
Would not recommend. Too preachy and talks too much about biblical references.
I have been a long time fan of the author, but he leaps way over the line in bringing biblical references and analogies intoa pop teen Sci-fi story.
No issues with the narrators.
I am done with this series, and will look with a jaded eye at future books from this author.
Author should keep to his task....Don't start going Any Rand or "Animal Farm" on us by dragging religious or political personal views into his fiction.
I don't like the tone and overall feeling i get from Danny's world... I dislike the interactions and it feels forced and over sexualized at times. I will not read any more from this author!
NO! (spoiler) I was hooked to find out more about Lowkey and the man in the tree. but I was personally offended by the death of the toddler after the book spoke of such promise. I do not see why she would do that when the death of Lowkey would have hidden the truth about the child's true father. I know the writer was attempting to bring a heartless feeling to the readers but an attempted murder would have been just to for fill that. But again, was not human and felt forced. Why kill the boy after she talked about his potential greatness, and how her true husband was a weak mage.
Better Dialog and Danny's personality seemed to changed mattering on where the writer wanted to go with the story. I felt like I strongly disliked Danny, soon after he found his way to "our realm" for more than half of the book series, hard to see him as a main character, but then I grew to like him only to hate him again.. trickster I understand but his personality flipped in a very disliked manor.
great thoughts and story base, poor execution
Orson Scott Cards writing is ALWAYS superb, even this novel was well written. But (and as Orson Scott Card discussed in the 'epilogue') he dove largely into explaining the science' part of this science-fiction novel. And he balanced it well, it's just that the bulk of it seemed to be very dogmatic at times exhibiting an inner-turmoil to walk right up to the line of blaspheme and then turn away--given the knowledge that Orson Scott Card is a member of Mormon Church-LDS. I know it is fiction, but it seemed SO DEVELOPED that at times it felt like I was reading one man's personal indoctrination manual for either Scientology 101 or post-Mormonism and done so from within the midst of drug-induced haze.
The other aspect was that some of the 'theology' seemed to parallel that which was referenced in the Ender's series--particularly 3rd and 4th books; sort of a re-gifting of an underlying ideal but simply a different setting and characters.
Personally, I always viewed the Mormon faith of the 1800's as simply a precursor for Scientology of the 1900's... this book eerily bridged that unintended gap. It was either that or it felt like the story should have been narrated by Cheech & Chong... like oh wow, man.
(maybe a little bit of both)
Narration was great as it was in the book before, again, the pacing and tempo between these two good narrators could be better blended to compliment as contrast.
And as in the first book, this book was only the second part to a three part novel.
Say something about yourself!
I liked The Lost Gate. I did not love it, but liked it. It was a solid 3 & ¾ star book. When I read the reviews of The Gate Thief, I was concerned.
Seemed like all the audible reviewers really liked the first book, but disliked the second book, thinking it was a significant departure from book 1. There are lots of discussions on OSC being overly “preachy”. I have read or listened too many of OSCs books, and almost all contain Moral dilemmas and have underlying moral lessons. I wanted to see where Mither Mages was going, so I took a chance.
I really did not find The Gate Thief much of a departure from the Gate Thief. It was a bit slower than book one but I did not find it any more “preachy” than I was accustomed to from OSC. If you liked the Lost Gate, I would recommend listening to the Gate Thief. I intend to purchase book 3 when it comes out.
For people who though they had handle on where this was going after book one your in for a shock. This book takes a complete left turn from where I though we were heading. In the afterwards we learned that this books original outline and story was tossed and completely re done in order to better lay ground work for book 3. The story is good but seems rushed in places and some of the people feel very different then they did in book one.