I enjoy a good read, tough to do while driving.
Kevin Collins does a great job, it would be 100% if if pronounced the names of people and places the same way as the first 5 books. It definitely didn't diminish the story but it came to mind every time he pronounced the CH proper nouns as in "charlie" instead of "character". I'm not anal enough to be too bothered but as I said, it came to mind often when the Empress and the Empire's name sound different. If he read the first five books, I would be just as distracted by the change to the sound. I wait impatiently for the next book.
It has great continuity, it brings Peter Hamilton's Void series to mind, to my mind anyway.
I've read or listened to all of David Weber's work, he keeps me occupied.
i have listened to all of the series the last book was ruined by Charles Keating
this book was a much better performance by Kevin T. Collins he did an ok job i really wish
Oliver Wyman could have read the whole series
I actually like Keven Collins the narrater but not this time. Kevin listen to a previous book or two for the tone of the book and pronunciation. You were so over the top and messed up simple words, We deserved better from you David and the publisher.
It did not
Homework is important
When you change a narrator twice is a series with characters we love. You should care more about the people who buy your books
No,the narrator was so bad that he took an average story and made it very hard to even complete listening. It's a new narrator and he didn't pronounce names correctly making me figure out who he was reading about. You'd think a new narrator would have enough sense to listen to the previous narrator of a series so at least he pronounces the names the same. Also his "voices" pretty much all sounded the same giving very little "life" to the charachters.
The ending because it was finally over. Although I did like the coming back to life of one person.
see my comments above. Please bring back the "old" narrator. This narrator was really really bad. Only my love of the series kept me listening with the hope that the next book won't have this narrator.
Moments that could have been very moving weren't because of the crappy voices and acting of the narrator.
I feel I have to comment, and put a little context.
The Series: is excellent and well written, however it does tend to drag a little, I know this era is where most of the meat will be, but at the rate he's going it will take him about 30 books just to take over safehold never mind the G-baba
The Narration: I understand it is hard to keep the same narrator through an entire series like this, I imagine its really tough to schedule, but for god's sake do a professional job of it. The first narrator sets the tone and all others must honor that tone or it will turn readers off. The switch from first to second narrator was not too bad, most pronunciations, accents and inflection were similar, the only criticism is that the second narrator is obviously far far older then the first and it throws you a bit, especially when the vast majority of the characters are supposed to be very young. Lastly the latest narrator Kevin Collins should never have been allowed to narrate anything, he has done no research he listened to none of the previous books to understand pronunciation, and he over acts in the extreme, it does not matter if he is listing a dinner menu everything is of earth shattering importance, I don't want to crush the poor guy but you really should burn this copy re-do the whole book six with the first narrator and send a new copy to every poor soul who had the poor judgement to buy this thing. To be fair it is in no way all his fault, there are producers, recording techs and god knows how many other people involved in these recordings and Weber himself, were none of them paying any attention to this, do we matter so little, for pete's sake he pronounced just about every character and place completely differently then anyone else!
I will listen to the rest of the book since I usually listen to them during my commute and I just want to get this over with but I positively grit my teeth through the whole thing, I wish Merlin Athross??? could just PICA(apparently now pronounced Pike-A, instead of Peak-A) this thing better.
Lastly i'm not kidding when I say this Macmillian Audio, Audible and David Weber should apologize for this utter disaster ASAP, this is just not right.
The narrator gets one star for being able to read. But! Did he even listen to the previous audiobooks? Even one? "CHARR is" vs. "CAR is" , whichever is correct doesn't matter. It is the latter which has been used up til now. Its change is like the fingernails on a chalkboard.
The story remains intact. And seems a decent continuation.
Listening to it, maybe not so much. I should of read it, at least then I would get the names right.If you are going to change narrators at least make the put in the effort to listen to the previous books so they can get a feel of how the story is being told, and how to pronounce the damn names.
It ended? the complete lack of knowledge on the style this series as been performed in the previous books, and the failure to get the names right, had me going crazy.
yes, but use the first narrator.
Spend a little time with your narrator. Make sure they know, how to pronounce words and listed to the book before you start selling it.Books have editors, why the hell doesn't an audio book.Maps would also be nice to track what is happening where.
I would gladly listen to another David Weber book. He is an excellent writer and I would truly like it if his War Gods series was added to your lists.
I will not listen to another Kevin Collins book if I can help it. His lack of any preparation such as reviewing how other readers had already pronounced names truly destroyed most of my pleasure in this book. Add in his failure to even pronounce common use words correctly and you have a truly horrendous listening experience!
From a writing standpoint, Midst Toil and Tribulation is definitely a Safehold book. It and the Honor Harrington series show David Weber's penchant for long background narratives that still make up an enjoyable read. I might actually compare it to the books Robert E. Heinlein wrote about Lazarus Long.
Thankfully from a listening perspective I haven't heard anything as bad as this book was read and hope to hear nothing that bad again.
The narrator failed to even check how other books in the series had been narrated. This is a major lack since this is the six book in the series. He failed to match pronunciation on every name that he could mangle. The same for place names. He also screwed up common words on such a regular basis that it was ridiculous. The final insult was being unable to tell any character from another more than half the time. The rest of the time, you only knew because the book told you that was who it was.
You may want to listen to this book as it's the sixth in the series. I will warn you that it will still frustrate you throughout the entire book.
Don't let this narrator put you off the David Weber books. The rest of the narrators are good or outstanding. Just be sure you really want the book if Kevin Collins is reading it. You know, if it's a major part of a series or something you just have to have.
Probably not. While he has great vocal skills (differentiating characters well), he needs a pronunciation coach and he is way too overly dramatic. It was like 1960's Captain Kirk was reading. This guy makes every sentence DRAMATIC. "And THEN, he went INTO the .... baaathrooom!" Seriously, I'm sure not every sentence ends in an exclamation point, but Kevin Collin's makes it sound that way.I actually stopped listening 4 or 5 times just because of the narrator. It gets hard to tell what's really dramatic and important when he's ALWAYS dramatic!
This book is way too slow. I know there are a lot of characters and moving armies around the world takes a long time, but there just wasn't much action. I love David Weber for his great battle scenes - epic space naval battles from Honor Harrington series for example. I actually like how he shows the development of technologies in this series, but I have more than 2/3 through and there had only a couple skirmishes. He appears to be setting the stage for some fierce and epic battles but... get to it already!
Maybe I'll update this post when I finally get to the end.
Narrator that had actually listened the first five books. If the Narrator had listened the the first five books maybe this book would have received better reviews.
No, Collins should have familiarized himself with the pronunciations of the name and places within this book. It was extermely difficult to actually keep listening to the book.