Toil and Tribulation is a worthwhile continuation of the Safehold saga. Some surprises are included in the story, and there is much of the industrial, military, diplomatic, and theological complexity for which this series has become known. At times, though, complexity gives way to tedium. Hence four stars and not five. The story is worth listening to.
The breadth and depth of military history and tactics that are presented. I recognize this is an acquired taste, however, and so this tale may not be for everyone.
The narration is carelessly done. Pronunciations from previous volumes and their narrations are nearly unrecognizable. There is no attempt at using English and other accents to distinguish various ethnic groups as done so well in previous volumes. Worst of all, even English words such as adjutant are badly mispronounced. If the producers of the next volume can't do better than this, I'll just buy the book and be donewith it. Please bring back Oliver Wyman or Jason Culp.
No movie could be made long enough to do the Safehold series any justice.
After 3 chapters I am giving up. The narrator and the Audible editor have either never listened to the pronunciations from all the previous books in the series... Or were just pathetically lazy!
Almost every name and place is mispronounced. In an audio book series this is a mortal sin.
I will read the book instead.
I am an avid eclectic reader.
I am not sure about this series. I read it and say no more then I find myself wondering what happens next and download the next book in the series. I am hooked on Weber's Honor series but this series can not compare to that one. I hate it when a series keeps changing narrators. My message to the publishers and author is hire one narrator for the whole series. If the narrator can not commit hire a different one. In this series Oliver Wyman narrator the first two books. Jason Culp the next two, then Charles Keating and now Kevin T. Collins. The main plots of the story and its' characters are interesting but Weber seem to go into long description trying to build a world rushing into the industrial revolution and a religious war. Merlin Athawes has a bout of survival guilt and bout of conscious doubt about killing people. Did Weber forget he is a machine? The book ends but what happened to the war in the Republic of Siddermark? Lots of question --is it coming up in the next book, if so, do I want to read it? Guess time will tell, if I again wonder and reach for the next book in the series.
I'm not reviewing the book -- I haven't read/listened to it yet. I surely won't be *listening* to this one (and I'm hoping to get my credit back!).
Yet another narrator in this series. This one is breathy, reading with way too much intensity and practically gasping between phrases. As if that wasn't bad enough, as soon as he comes to a name we should all know, he butchers them. Merlin Athrawes's last name has been pronounced A-thraw-ways (or close to that) in all the previous books. This new narrator says, "A-thraws". "Charisian" (previously pronounced kar-is-ian) is now char-ees-ian. "Charis" (previously pronounced kar-is) is now char-is.
Enough is enough. McMillan Audio needs to get narrator and author together for a pronunciation guide. And once there is one, they need to *stick* with it (if not the narrator, at *least* the pronunciation guide!). I am extremely disappointed in this latest narration flop. I've been looking forward to curling up with this book with my Christmas knitting projects for a couple of weeks now.
How can he pronounce everything incorrectly. Simply listen to one or two of the previous books. That would seem to be basic but nope. Besides that i liked the book.
Narrator ruined good book. Butchered name Makel gor Michael, Idiot should have listen to others books before ding it.
I didn't think it was possible but somehow mcmillian managed to find a narrator that was even worse then the last one. It just saddens me that such a fantastic story is getting such a terrible narration job for the audio versions. I suppose ill get used to it eventually but its going to be really really hard. That said if you have never heard of the safe hold series its AWESOME just have to get past the first couple of chapters of the first book (off armageddons reef) and you will be hooked and very angry at the narration job :D
A lot of reviews are really slamming the narrator, but I thought he did a fine job. The problem is with the producer/director. It appears that no direction was given to the narrator at all, it is the directors job to keep the pronuciations of the names consistent with the other books in the series. But it appears the director did not listen to the other books in this series. So the result was some rather jarring changes in the main characters name and the locations on Safehold. But once I accepted the changes the narrartor did a good job of voicing the various characters and keeping the narrration interesting.
As for the story, it did progress a bit in this book. By my calculations we will only need aabout 80 or 90 more books in this series before the humans of Safehold are ready to seek revenge from the Gbaba. I hope David Weber lives to be 160 so we can have a conclusion to the series.
Nevermind he can't pronounce anything correctly. He just can't stop pushing so much drama into every. Single. Word.
People making fun of hardcore Shakespearean actors don't cheese this hard.
I couldn't finish it. The narrator made it too cringe-worthy.
Yes, inspite of the nearly illiterate narrator who not only mispronounces all of the names but also some common English words. The story is too good not to reread/relisten, but I have considered buying the ebook to avoid this narrator. I would have boycotted the next Audible book in the series if you had used the same narrator.
When Princess Iris admits that she has been converted to the reformed church.
He mispronounced most of the names whose pronunciations had been long-established and familiar in the 5 previous books in this series. He also mispronounced quite a few common English words, making his reading sound like a third grader's at times.
PLEASE HAVE THIS BOOK RERECORDED, using the narrator of Like a Mighty. Army.
World War on Mankind's Last Refuge!
When you change narrators in a series, the new narrator should be . required to listen toprevious books in the series, especially sci fi stories which usually have made up names in them.