First let me say the other Rawles books are very good. This one was BAD. You would have to be a born again Christian to really enjoy this one.
Lucifer's Hammer then Jakarta Pandemic
I know Rawles is better than this and he will write another one. When he does, I hope he leaves the religion to a minimum. I realize there probably is an advantage in a survival situation if you are tied into a religoius group, but not all survivors would be religious. At least I hope.
YES as I think Rawles style is interesting to me and like minded people. This story however almost seemed a rehash of allot of the Patriots story. It is tied into the other books really well. Its hard to say what book to listen to first but Id say patriots first then survivors then this one. At least thats how I read them.
Humm IDK dont watch allot of television.
GET Ready for it.
The religious overtones were just got in the way of the story. Although the story itself was just a rehash of the first two books.
Religious right overtones too great.
Really enjoy listening to these books sure am glad I was introduced to Audible. Best dollar I've ever spent.
If you've read the other 3 books you'll see several references to them in this final [I believe] book in the series. It was a nice cap to the series and I recommend it to everyone. It's an easy listen and the information is as always important to have.
Founders ranks right along side of James Wesley Rawles' Patriots and Survivors.
Very well performed.a great listen.
Founders tells the back story of several characters first introduced in Patriots and Survivors. It is a great story if you liked Patriots and Survivors.
I would have focused on different characters although the ellaboration of focusing on a core group of individuals, and actually making them the highlight of the story was rather enjoyable. I personally found it rather interesting this book was never meant to be a work of fiction, but rather a hypothetical simulation on real life occurences that may take place in 10 years based on the Author's opinion.
I liked the old Narrator for the last 3 of his books. However it was a nice change of pace to have someone new contribute to the story.
I think Founders is aptly named. These were the men, and woman who helped institute the rebuilding of the US into a new republic in the story.
I didn't mind the religious undertones because unlike many of you these things are important to the characters, and if you don't like the book don't read it. Personally it doesnt bother me, and those love stories are important. Their battle for freedom is closely held with those they love its all tied together. It is what fundamentally drives these people to fight, and die.
I really enjoyed Patriots, Saviors dropped off a little bit, but Founders seems like a loose collection of notes that where left over from the first two books and put together to feed the need for a third book.
If you were a born-again Christian AND had not read Patriots (another book by Rawles), you might tolerate this story.
This book was clearly cobbled together with little thought or creativity in a quick and desperate attempt to exploit the loyal readership base of Patriots and Survivors and Rawles.
The Laytons' story has already been told and was better in the condensed version. The outcome of the "war" and the role of some of the characters directly involved in the fighting are old news. The cardboard characters from the Montana missile silo segments were simply implausible. Packaged together this portion of the book would have rated a solid D- in a freshman writing class.
The two prior books contributed some useful prepper info along with the somewhat limited plot lines and weak character development. Perhaps because of the haste with which this book was slapped together, plot became plod and characters became stand-ins for Rawles' peculiar version of flat Christian stereotypes.
Since Rawles purports to honor Christian values, he needs to be reminded that personal greed is a sin. Exploiting honest and loyal fans is even worse. His characters spend entirely too much time mouthing the words of Christian values costing the story momentum and credibility. But Rawles' exploitation of his readers speaks more about him and his real values than all the Christian piety in this slap-dash, second-hand, twice-told "story."
The narrator was OK, but either the producer or narrator need to do some background checking. For example, the town of Belle Fourche is pronounced "bell foosh". Perhaps the nonsense in the narrative regarding the pronunciation is exactly what Rawles wrote. In that case, Rawles got suckered with a story by somebody playing a clever joke on a pompous guy.
Pure disappointment. Despite the lengthy didactic segments in Patriots, I liked the book. Founders was not an improvement but did have some bright spots. Speaking of Founders, it is unfortunate that Rawles knows very little about horses and less about riding. He should have had someone with real knowledge critique that part of the story.
Founders is a misleading and deceptive name given the story. I listened all the way through hoping that at some point, the book would come to life. It never happened. This is a rare case, where I would return the book if I could.
Save your money or credits for something else.
not as good. a little heavy on the christian zionist message
just as good
like all of the books in this series ,founders gives us great lessons on how to survive the COMMING ECONOMIC COLLAPSE AND WORLD WAR.rawles mixes survival tech with a great story. heres my problem with the book. in the previous books the zionist christian themes were there ,but not so pronounced.this book kinda made me feel like he possibly hung out with a few neo cons that still thought 19 men in caves made 3 buildings fall in their own foot print with only two air planes and that there was a massive islamic threat looming over the hill ready at any time to come steal our women and convert by the sword.this really got bad at the end of the book when you find out what the world looks like in 100 years .i first thought the revolution would be more libertarian ,less interventionalist .but the message i got at the end of the book was, the world went on the same way, only a little more earth friendly and monitarily sound.i suggest that rawles re reads the works of the founding fathers .im not saying this is a bad book, but i would of hoped it would of ended up a little more ron paul ,gary johnson and a little less rush limbaugh ,shaun hannity!
I think I've got a tap in to the whole "survivalist" mentality and don't like it at all. This last book is more of a missianik teaching then any survival suggestions. I think that was the purpose behind the book. Was sorry to WAST a credit. Worst of the trilogy.