I like J W Rawles stuff - I know it's not exactly great literature but I enjoy it.
This book recycles some of his other stuff and doesn't really flow in with much new stuff. It's a bit all over the place. If you've read either of his other books this one is only so so.
There is a bit of good Christian witness in.
Not a bad book but not very good either.
I am a religious person, born again christian who has alot of the same views on a coming collapse as mister Rawles... however, that being said. this is without a doubt the worst book i have ever listened to/read. i have noticed in this post apocalypse/emp/societal colapse/zombie genre, some of the authors are using the books to play out their own little fantasies about what a bad ass they wish they had been in real life, kinda got that impression from Rawles in his first book where the lead protagonist is some super bad ass soldier (oh wait he's a accounting analyst before the crunch? yet he tells a former force recon marine "good job that's how a recon should be done" no kidding geek boy, that's what he was TRAINED TO DO... like a pencil pushing computer geek would have a clue to be able to say good job).... how believeble is that. go on your little security patrol trips with your "group" all you want, if your a computer geek, TSHTF doesnt make you rambo all of a sudden... back to founders, the story on this is absolutely incredibly indescribably horrible, almost to the point of painful, i had read all the bad reviews but told myself that many of them had to do with the religon and alot of people probably are not christians that read it so that is how i explained it away.
Big mistake.... please read the reviews, even if you are a fan of Rawles, wait till his next book. maybe it will be better, don't waste your money!
i would honestly like to have an open line of communication with mister Rawles as some of the things he mentions in his book and seems to endorse are pretty much directly against the christian faith to the point i wonder if he really is a christian or just playing one for the sales?
And no i am not talking about the action and violence i am no pacifist, in fact this book was sorely lacking on the action side.
And as far as the religion goes, it was well sprinkled in Patriots and Survivors. but DRENCHED in Founders. i feel more books should be written like Patriots putting a positive light on christians since society in general tends to beat us up on a regular basis, but come on Rawles, if you want to write a book on your view and studies of differing religious doctrine, please do so, i may even read it, as i enjoy studying many different views. but just spouting random thoughts and excerpts from your own studies and trying to form a story that fits around them does not a good book make. Based on your charecters in the books interaction with each, other one has to wonder if you have ever even met and listened to people before. people dont talk that way! period..... and oh ya by the way not everyone with a tattoo is a gang banging criminal rapist......... and not only super pious uber religious people will survive the collapse to be "the good guys" so when it comes don't just randomly shoot people who arent carrying a King James please...
P.S mister Rawles..... write a book detailing the keen brothers adventure from Patriots..... but do better than you did with this one.
Although I'd still read future works from this author, I felt that he copied and pasted much of his story from his first books. I was really put off by this, as well as the narrator's voice. 3 of Rawle's previous books have the same narrator, it's a shame that he switched on the final one.
I'm half way through this book and have to stop listening. It's such a wast of my time. I feel that the author needed to fill this book up in order to complete his trilogy and that's exactly what you get while reading, "filler". Patriots was a great book, but with the author reusing the exact same material I had to check and make sure I haven't already listened to this book.
If you buy it, you will receive the following:
-cut and past sentences/paragraphs and material from the 2 previous books (Patriots and Survivors)
-agonizingly long descriptions of people, places and objects that are unrelated to the plot. Was this to fill up space on the pages?
-an incredible amount of religious based text which for some reason was pushed into this book. Maybe the author found Jesus while writing it?
In conclusion, I'm wishing I had just spent my credit on a different book.
Great book --- horrible reader. After years of audio listening, I never heard some impersonate a male or female voice so horribly.
And Buffalo George
I previously read Rawles' Patriots and Survivors books so when I saw Founders that it was going to be more of the same. However, it is connected somehow to his other two books, but I don't know if this is a sequel, prequel, or just part of the same story. This third book continues part christianity, part apocalypse and part gun catalog. This is an odd book with a lot of copy/paste from the other two books. In the end, the nationalism wins out and all good people go home. It demonstrates, once again, that all politics is local and political power comes from the barrel of a gun...I was disappointed by Founders.