No. Unless they really want to delve in to the addicted mind and psyche in which case it is probably worth reading - the author's insights into AA, addiction, and obsession are keen and thorough.
I think that a good book should not need two reads for basic things like understanding key details. If you do want to tackle this book read about it first. You'll enjoy it MUCH more. It wasn't until a third of the way through the book that I figured out what "Year of the Depend Adult Undergarment" meant - that it was a reference to a year the same as "2016" might be (I have no clue if that's the corresponding year) and not some descriptive marker in one of the character's lives.
The cultural setting should be introduced in a way that adds to the story and character development. Not so that it detracts from it. DFW leaves out crucial details until later in the story - details you NEED to understand when you START the story.
The other aspect of the book that I don't enjoy at all is that a good bit of the prose is, from what I can tell, the author more or less taking immense pleasure in his own wit and writing craft. Given that I am not an author myself, I can't really speak to this in too much detail except to say that I could sense when DFW was going into "self pleasure mode" vs. actually writing a book.
One of the key tenants of good literature, in my opinion, is that no part of it should be able to be removed without damaging the work. Some parts of this book could be removed, and the work would be improved. Omit ---- needless ---- words.
Footnotes. Ugh. f you do some research, you'll discover that the footnotes are key for understanding the work, and more importantly from what I've read, you should read the footnotes as you are reading the book.
If this is the case, then the footnotes should be read (perhaps by a different reader, say, for example, that woman that keeps interrupting us with footnote numbers) in line with the story itself. Doing so would certainly not detract from the story organization, since the whole thing is chaotically organized anyway.
Some aspects of the story reflect DFW's sense of humor, which I do not like. I don't particularly find the wheeled legless Canadian special agents all that entertaining. I think it's kind of stupid, personally.
The author gets some technical details so far wrong that it is distracting. For example, there is one scene where the sun casts a shadow across two figures over a city from a mountain. The author describes how the shadow of the figures grows and encompasses the whole city as the sun sets. Thats... uh... not at all how it works. The sun is bigger than a person, just a bit, and a person does not at all cast a shadow on a city any more than a small satellite that passes in front of the sun occludes the earth. Details like that, which are missed, are distracting.
Lastly, the story is predictable. I had read about some kind of surprise ending. I found it to be totally predictable in pretty much every way after about a third of the way into it. The plot is unimaginative in this regard.
Yes, the reader was great.
Ugh. It would be SO depressing.
Do not read this book unless you might enjoy diving into depression, addiction, loneliness, depravity, and unless you have a deep love of well crafted but otherwise useless sentences.
Faced with mindless duty, when an audio book player slips into a rear pocket and mini buds pop into ears, old is made new again.
“Infinite Jest” is an excruciating story of a closely examined life. Great credit is earned by the original publisher. To complete “Infinite Jest’s” stream-of-consciousness journey is an arduous task. It is too long. As one of Wallace’s characters says, I hear you but the explanation has “too many words”.
Every created character is a part of who David Foster Wallace is or wants to be. Wallace’s self-absorption, destructive behavior, and vulnerability seep from every ink-stained page; from every enunciated sentence. His “Infinite Jest” becomes real and complete with his wasted suicide at age 46.
“Infinite Jest” is about addiction. “Infinite Jest” argues that modern civilization is jaded by plenty. Movies, pornography, drugs, and other distracting entertainments are so plentiful that escape from trials of life becomes the purpose of life. Human success is redefined. Escape from conflict replaces drive for money, power, and prestige. Obsessive/compulsive behavior focuses on immediate gratification.
No question,“Infinite Jest” is a brilliant piece of work. However, it is David Foster Wallace’s “one percenter’s” view of life. This is a sad, depressing story because Wallace trivialized his life by committing suicide. If society is addicted to entertainment then Wallace infers suicide is a harbinger of the future. This is a myopic view of humanity but a true story of a closely examined life.
The best. Hands down.
There are too many.. PT Krause's withdrawal scene has to be one of the most intense scenes ever.
Honestly, I would say Pratt did a great job with pretty much all of them. It was a relief to hear his narration during some of the conversations, as I can imagine it would be harder to tell who was saying what at all times otherwise, given the dialogue structure. Also, given the ensemble cast of characters, having voices for each really helps with remembering / identification.
No. At over 56 hours + endnotes, I'd need at least a couple of breathers in there. I think to really take in everything (or most of... After taking a look at the IJ wiki, i still missed a lot) this novel has to offer, it's best to go for maybe a maximum of two hours or so at a time. Maybe that's just my attention span.. But really, it's not a book you want to rush through. To rush through to the ending would be to miss the point.
I feel as though there are a few quibbles that need to be addressed. Some of the audio queues for endnotes are missing. Particularly one section of the audio book.. I believe either section 4 or 5 has almost no notifications for end notes for a few hours, missing the upwards of 30 or so in a row. I don't believe that to be an exaggeration, but someone feel free to correct me if my numbers are off. I was actually reading along with the book in hand while listening (it helps me focus on books with this level of density.) so I was able to catch the missing end notes in time, but for other listeners, be wary. Also, as is to be expected with a book approx half a million words long (literally) there are a few changed words, and I did notice that a couple of sentences were omitted in entirety. They weren't crucial, but I did notice. Though, the physical copy of IJ that I own & was reading along with does have a few typos.. so I mean, I think it's almost unfair to expect perfection given the source material.That said I would still definitely give this audio book 5 stars, as it guided me through a book that I definitely would not have got quite so much out of otherwise. I plan to scan through the list of books Sean Pratt has narrated to see if there's anything else he's performed that I'm interested in, because he did such a phenomenal job with this one. Maybe he could take on A Naked Singularity? I'd love to hear his take on Delillo's Underworld or Danielewski's House of Leaves. (Other tomes I've yet to brave..)
I would not cut anything.
It is really awesome that you have made a audiobook of Infinite Jest. But leaving out the endnotes is a really bad choice as it makes this audiobook hard to listen. I can not stop and read a pdf file in a middle of a bike ride or car trip. You decision makes this audiobook unusable!
If it weren't for Audible I'd never get any reading done.
I waited a long time to read Infinite Jest since I depend heavily on audiobooks to keep up on my reading???I have a long commute, a busy job, kids, etc.???so I was very glad to see IJ become available. Having spent a month making my way through it with the audiobook AND a kindle version, reading every footnote, using Internet wikis to keep track of the story, exceptional vocabulary and references, I declare that I loved the book. It's a Ulysses for the 90's, combining erudition and a pop culture sensibility.
The reader does OK. He puts on some good Boston accents, but he's clearly no French speaker. There are some annoying edits inserted around the first half or so, as some producer clearly freaked out and made him correct the pronunciation of several French phrases and DFW's patented weird vocabulary. Still, give the poor bastard some credit--this must have taken him a month to record.
I understand the decision to leave out the footnotes, but it does seem like corner-cutting. If DFW were still alive, I bet he would have called for some clever compromise, such as putting the footnotes on a separate audio file in a different voice, or writing some comments for the reader to add, such as "That's just an explanation of the drug he's taking," or "Seriously, don't skip this one." Audiobook makers seem to forget that their products are performances like any other, and need not be a literal recitation treating the text as a sacred object.
... much of a story.
Genius is overused, but I believe it applied to David Foster Wallace. The man's knowledge and ability to communicate were nonpareil. Listening to this, I couldn't help but be awed by his command of the language. I could probably randomly go to a section and find a dazzling sentence. That said, I value story much higher than technique and ideally, I like to lose myself in the story and only be aware of technique on a subconscious level. That's impossible to do here. As a lover of language, sure, I enjoyed seeing these verbal acrobatics, but at some point, the story and the characters have to take over. That just didn't happen for me. While I found the characters unique, they were only somewhat interesting. And the story failed to engage me.
I'm glad I listened to this and don't feel time was wasted. But unlike other long books considered classics -- Ulysses, War and Peace, Anna Karenina -- I have no intention of listening to this again.
The narrator pronounced the "h" in "why", "while", and "white". It was awful. As for the story itself, it thought it was way smarter than it was. Calling Tylenol acetaminophen and plastic bags polyethylene doesn't mean you're saying anything worthwhile.
Reading "Infinite Jest" as an audio book may be the best possible way of doing this book. The narrator (Sean Pratt) injects dozens of voices and effects, so that having him in your ear for 56 hours (yes) is like listening to several radio stations for days at a time. The book is legendary. The author has become mythic. Sure it's long. And there are valleys (it helps if someone is interested in the workings of New England private schools -- I am -- or in the intricacies of playing junior competitive tennis -- I am not) but there are not just hills but mountains. Lots of jokes too. In order to be part of the zeitgeist, it certainly helps to have read this book. If nothing else, it's influenced so many others. Now, perhaps, I'll see the movie.
Of course "Gravity's Rainbow" or any Pynchon. Some "Fear and Loathing in Los Vegas." And a touch of "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Universe" and "Another Roadside Attraction" or any Tom Robbins.
Are. You. Kidding?
Narrator is brilliant, despite mispronouncing a word or two and stumbling almost every time he had to say "Postlethwaite"
Heroic job. I hope he was paid amply.
I'd say I prefer my books to have a beginning and an end, not even necessary in that order but it should wrap up and have a conclusion. closure of some sort. not this one. their were many funny and humorous parts as well as vividly sad stories in rehab settings. No doubt the writing is absolutely great. It rambled along, entertainingly but ultimately to no avail, not for me anyway.
The endnotes should be embedded in the track. I know you claim you've put the endnotes in a totally separate book for the sake of the listeners, but this reasoning is nuts. There's no way on earth anyone actually believes actual human people prefer to
1) back out of whatever section (the body of the book is 7 downloads) they're in
2) back out of the book itself to the library
3) play a totally separate book to hear endnote 243 (or whatever #)
4) when the endnote is finished (most are less than a minute) go back out to the library
5) play the original book again
6) repeat this process 300+ times while you do whatever it is you usually do while you listen to audiobooks (probably the reason you started listening to audiobooks)
I do agree that having the endnotes embedded *could* be slightly confusing at times, but no one is listening to a 60 hour book without some expectation of putting out effort, and believing possibly the book itself being *worth* putting out effort. Plus, as a consumer, I promise you I'd rather be momentarily confused by the piece of art than DEEPLY FRUSTRATED with the presentation of the book itself for THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE BOOK. Just embed the notes & charge 2 credits for the book.
Pratt is not my favorite generally, but this is the worst I've heard him. I know the book is long, but there are SO MANY places where it's painfully obvious that a word or a few sentences were rerecorded in a separate session. The sound varies quite a lot. The poor recording is a constant reminder of the medium itself, and detracts from the book.
the book itself sparks a variety of reactions, Audible's presentation sparks frustration
I've physically read IJ a few times, & I like it quite a lot. This is the worst audiobook I've finished.