The book is wonderful. The reader is masterful. The endnotes are not there. Unless you count the pdf files. I listen to audiobooks while I work, which does not afford me the luxury of being able to stop and read each endnote as they occur in the book.
I am not a scholar of Infinite Jest. If these were your average endnotes I wouldn't care that they were missing. I listen purely for entertainment. But the endnotes are a huge part of this book. Who ever thought to remove them made a big big mistake.
I still enjoyed the book. But I'd recommend NOT buying it until this endnote fiasco is resolved.
I sought this out because it is so well loved. I got about 6 hours in and thought of 50 more hours of listening felt like work, or a task I had to finish. Audiobooks are a part of my every day commute, and for the next two weeks I found myself seeking out anything else to listen to other than returning to this book. I finally took that as a sign. Well written, but I'm just not interested. So, for only the second time in all the books I've listened to, I stopped.
Oh, well I would cut out all the endless and meaningless parts - but then that would not leave much.
This book probably is REALLY LOVED by some folks, but I utterly and completely did not get it. I tried to get into it probably 5 times, but just could not continue. So yes, I did not finish the book so I am not qualified to comment on it. But I can't help but think it is one of those "insider" type books; if you're not up on all the (often obscure) references, or do not think that the tangents enrich the story at all, or want a story to advance a little faster than a snail on crutches, then you should skip it.
See above: marketed as unabridged. This does not include the text in the footnotes. Are they serious? The preamble to the audiobook states that the text in the footnotes are not included. Instead, there is a woman's voice that will announce the number of the footnote. So then you can go to another source to obtain that text.*
I don't know. A good portion of the book, marketed as "unabridged," was not included.
I don't know. A good portion of the book, marketed as "unabridged" was not included.
I don't know. A good portion of the book, marketed as "unabridged" was not included.
*I just saw a performance piece based upon the works of DFW in the 2015 Under the Radar festival at the Public in NYC, and somehow those people were able to include DFW's footnotes in the text. Whoa. Have a women not read the NUMBER of the footnote, but instead read the TEXT of the footnote.
Fictional characters in narrative
Only a certain amount of jest can be gained from preoccupation with drug experience where the laughs tend to peter out, but there was definitely some writing talent shown at times, via authors observation, introspection, turn of phrase, directness, and yes of course from making jest of such lowered life,
though choosing substance use and abuse as one key subject makes jest come rather by default, as sitting ducks, shooting fish in a barrel, that kind of thing.
The story wasn't much, but the writing was better.
This is one of my favorite books of all time, and contrary to some of the other readers' perspectives, I thought the narration was very good--it's pretty incredible that one person could do such a broad range of characters.
Plusses of the Audible version: hearing the characters "acted" out can be helpful in understanding the sequence of action, the subtleties of interpersonal dynamics, etc. It's also pretty entertaining. Plus--who has time to read a 1000 page novel? This was nice to listen to on my morning runs, while getting ready in the morning, etc. (though I found that I coudn't listen while driving--as it required too much concentration ;). All in all--having this version accessible was an awesome treat!
Minuses of the Audible version: as other listeners have noted, it's VERY hard to keep track of the anachronistic plot with the audio version since you can't easily skip back to a certain portion and review what happened, etc. in order to make sense of what's going on in a particular scene. Also, this version is absolutely useless unless you have a copy of the endnotes to go with it--large parts of the plot simply wont make complete sense without them--as far as I'm concerned, this version is a tool for IJ readers, but not a substitute for having a paper/kindle version. Finally, at 56 hours of DENSE listening, this version took me months to get through--if you are a fast reader, expect this to take at least 2-4 as long as it would actually take you to read the book--and speeding it up isn't helpful unless you are paying super close attention to all of the myriad of details that the book covers in each sentence/paragraph/section.
I'll admit--at first, I hated the Audible version--it was so slow and hard to follow, but honestly, so is the book--it's only when you get going with it that it starts to really take off and things start to make sense and become interesting, so in this regard, having it narrated by someone with such a diverse range was really helpful for me :)
No. Unless they really want to delve in to the addicted mind and psyche in which case it is probably worth reading - the author's insights into AA, addiction, and obsession are keen and thorough.
I think that a good book should not need two reads for basic things like understanding key details. If you do want to tackle this book read about it first. You'll enjoy it MUCH more. It wasn't until a third of the way through the book that I figured out what "Year of the Depend Adult Undergarment" meant - that it was a reference to a year the same as "2016" might be (I have no clue if that's the corresponding year) and not some descriptive marker in one of the character's lives.
The cultural setting should be introduced in a way that adds to the story and character development. Not so that it detracts from it. DFW leaves out crucial details until later in the story - details you NEED to understand when you START the story.
The other aspect of the book that I don't enjoy at all is that a good bit of the prose is, from what I can tell, the author more or less taking immense pleasure in his own wit and writing craft. Given that I am not an author myself, I can't really speak to this in too much detail except to say that I could sense when DFW was going into "self pleasure mode" vs. actually writing a book.
One of the key tenants of good literature, in my opinion, is that no part of it should be able to be removed without damaging the work. Some parts of this book could be removed, and the work would be improved. Omit ---- needless ---- words.
Footnotes. Ugh. f you do some research, you'll discover that the footnotes are key for understanding the work, and more importantly from what I've read, you should read the footnotes as you are reading the book.
If this is the case, then the footnotes should be read (perhaps by a different reader, say, for example, that woman that keeps interrupting us with footnote numbers) in line with the story itself. Doing so would certainly not detract from the story organization, since the whole thing is chaotically organized anyway.
Some aspects of the story reflect DFW's sense of humor, which I do not like. I don't particularly find the wheeled legless Canadian special agents all that entertaining. I think it's kind of stupid, personally.
The author gets some technical details so far wrong that it is distracting. For example, there is one scene where the sun casts a shadow across two figures over a city from a mountain. The author describes how the shadow of the figures grows and encompasses the whole city as the sun sets. Thats... uh... not at all how it works. The sun is bigger than a person, just a bit, and a person does not at all cast a shadow on a city any more than a small satellite that passes in front of the sun occludes the earth. Details like that, which are missed, are distracting.
Lastly, the story is predictable. I had read about some kind of surprise ending. I found it to be totally predictable in pretty much every way after about a third of the way into it. The plot is unimaginative in this regard.
Yes, the reader was great.
Ugh. It would be SO depressing.
Do not read this book unless you might enjoy diving into depression, addiction, loneliness, depravity, and unless you have a deep love of well crafted but otherwise useless sentences.
Faced with mindless duty, when an audio book player slips into a rear pocket and mini buds pop into ears, old is made new again.
“Infinite Jest” is an excruciating story of a closely examined life. Great credit is earned by the original publisher. To complete “Infinite Jest’s” stream-of-consciousness journey is an arduous task. It is too long. As one of Wallace’s characters says, I hear you but the explanation has “too many words”.
Every created character is a part of who David Foster Wallace is or wants to be. Wallace’s self-absorption, destructive behavior, and vulnerability seep from every ink-stained page; from every enunciated sentence. His “Infinite Jest” becomes real and complete with his wasted suicide at age 46.
“Infinite Jest” is about addiction. “Infinite Jest” argues that modern civilization is jaded by plenty. Movies, pornography, drugs, and other distracting entertainments are so plentiful that escape from trials of life becomes the purpose of life. Human success is redefined. Escape from conflict replaces drive for money, power, and prestige. Obsessive/compulsive behavior focuses on immediate gratification.
No question,“Infinite Jest” is a brilliant piece of work. However, it is David Foster Wallace’s “one percenter’s” view of life. This is a sad, depressing story because Wallace trivialized his life by committing suicide. If society is addicted to entertainment then Wallace infers suicide is a harbinger of the future. This is a myopic view of humanity but a true story of a closely examined life.
The best. Hands down.
There are too many.. PT Krause's withdrawal scene has to be one of the most intense scenes ever.
Honestly, I would say Pratt did a great job with pretty much all of them. It was a relief to hear his narration during some of the conversations, as I can imagine it would be harder to tell who was saying what at all times otherwise, given the dialogue structure. Also, given the ensemble cast of characters, having voices for each really helps with remembering / identification.
No. At over 56 hours + endnotes, I'd need at least a couple of breathers in there. I think to really take in everything (or most of... After taking a look at the IJ wiki, i still missed a lot) this novel has to offer, it's best to go for maybe a maximum of two hours or so at a time. Maybe that's just my attention span.. But really, it's not a book you want to rush through. To rush through to the ending would be to miss the point.
I feel as though there are a few quibbles that need to be addressed. Some of the audio queues for endnotes are missing. Particularly one section of the audio book.. I believe either section 4 or 5 has almost no notifications for end notes for a few hours, missing the upwards of 30 or so in a row. I don't believe that to be an exaggeration, but someone feel free to correct me if my numbers are off. I was actually reading along with the book in hand while listening (it helps me focus on books with this level of density.) so I was able to catch the missing end notes in time, but for other listeners, be wary. Also, as is to be expected with a book approx half a million words long (literally) there are a few changed words, and I did notice that a couple of sentences were omitted in entirety. They weren't crucial, but I did notice. Though, the physical copy of IJ that I own & was reading along with does have a few typos.. so I mean, I think it's almost unfair to expect perfection given the source material.That said I would still definitely give this audio book 5 stars, as it guided me through a book that I definitely would not have got quite so much out of otherwise. I plan to scan through the list of books Sean Pratt has narrated to see if there's anything else he's performed that I'm interested in, because he did such a phenomenal job with this one. Maybe he could take on A Naked Singularity? I'd love to hear his take on Delillo's Underworld or Danielewski's House of Leaves. (Other tomes I've yet to brave..)