I've read the other reviews here complaining that the narrator's changed the way he pronounces the names of the major characters. That's only partly true. There are times when he jarringly careens back and forth between the old and new pronunciations within a single chapter (notably with Brienne). He's also changed the way he pronounces place names, particularly with Harrenhal. Most troubling, though, is he's changed the way he pronounces basic vocabulary: for example, mycobiont-phycobiont symbiotes in the first three books were "litch'-en" and now they're "like'-en." I think the expert's attention this books needs isn't that of an editor but a neurologist.
Yes, it's just agreat story.
Cersei, just to watch her unravel.
Inconsistent pronounciation. When he acts out the characters' voices, some changed from the previous books and even in changed from chapter to chapter in this book.
Please get in contact with this publisher and ask that this narrator record his voice when acting out the characters so that if he forgets the voice he used and forgets pronounciation, he'll be able to recall it. Or, get some other narrator. His work pulled me out of the story constantly.
Really dissaponted with Roy Dotrice's performance. All the characters changed voices and that made me lose the emotional relation I had with them.
Sometimes I stop to remember the voices they had on the previous books and realise how accurate and distinct they were, only to be let down by the next words coming from the speakers.
This is an audiobook series and I can't get my head around how this could've happened. I just feel sad. I think the book's value decreased very much and I did not enjoy listening to it as much as the other titles mainly because of this; and I got more distracted and lost focus while listening.
Also, the "new" voices are not as consistent. They wobble around a little and it's kind of disconcerting.
The story is good but not on par with the previous books. Although I have not finished it yet (70%), I feel like it doesn't have as much depth and variation. It felt a bit rushed.
Overall, it's not a *great* book. I guess it would be best if you weren't used to the old voices.
First of all, the book is great! GRRM is obviously building up to some pretty epic events to come in this novel. Some people complain that he has "lost his vision", but I believe this book is important to set the stage for what is to come.
Roy Dotrice is very good at some characters, especially the old men and gruff warrior types. When it comes to women.. he makes them all sound like daft peasants... even the high born ladies. It isn't so bad that I couldn't enjoy listening, but it can be distracting when the witty and smart Lady Arya sounds like a low born gutter snipe.
Now lets see if GRRM will take another 5 years to write the Winds of Winter...
Make the women sound appropriate to their station.
If I could stay awake for 37 hours.. sure.
This was definitely not my favorite book of the series, but good nonetheless. There is a very definite shift here from the non-stop action of Storm of Swords to a more deliberate writing style and pace of the story. I admit I got frustrated when I reached the 80% mark in this book and realized that nothing I cared about was going to be resolved. But I keep reading and reading anyway. The characters are so good, and I'm so invested at this point, there's nothing else I can do. It's the journey, not the destination, I guess. We shall see. As usual, the narration by Dotrice is spot on and really adds to the story.
I read the four Tolkein books,multiple times, and I even read the Silmarillion. They are an allegory. They have a point. They have an ending. This series however, has no point. It is hateful, misogynistic tripe that only makes you loathe the characters more and more. I am a poorer person spiritually after four of these books.
The storyline is so weak and uninspired I grew sick. Pre-Ice Age civilization could have been such a fertile ground for a story, but the author is hung up on political backstabbing, and evil, evil women. I was going to read the fifth book, but one of the critics mentions that it is not over yet even after five books. Let it end. Let the wights come down and end the civilization. Destroy it in the most beautiful piece of zombie fiction ever. Please!
For myself, I am moving on to some meaningful reading. Nos4atu looks good.
And then the narrator. Roy Dotrice has convinced me after reading to me for over 100 hours that he has but seven characters to portray: a Scottish old man, a Shakespearean witch from Macbeth, an Irish old man, a random crone from United Kingdom, Steve the Pirate, a stupid boy with MRDD, and another pirate rejected from the casting of a pirate movie. Sadly, the sexxy female parts are read in the voice of a crone, and the manly warrior parts are read in any of the above voices. What a shallow bench of voices to have when undertaking a reading of such a series! Then, because the series is so long, in book three, he switches up the voices he uses for certain characters, and in book four he starts pronouncing their names differently!
Absolutely not. It turned me off from this particular author.
Ant young actor should be able to do a better job than he, with the following advice. There are hundreds of characters. You need a person who can depict the female range as well as the male, the weak male from the strong, the sexxy voluptuous female from the old crone, the bitch from the sweetheart, the scared from the stupid, and then be able to do it with a range of accents from different areas of the world. Then the narrator needs to document which voice is used for whom and do not mix it up!
Circe. Wow, did she get way too much airtime.
Please refrain from comparing the author to Tolkein. Prolific and well-grammared writing is not visionary. This is weak.
I listened to the first three books prior to this one. I grew accustomed to the voices that he gave certain characters. In this book (and the final book), he changed the voices and pronunciations. I found this hard to accustom myself to.Pe-tire became Peter; Cat-lin became Kate-lin; Bry-ene became Brian, Breen, etc.; "Who's Brian, who is he talking about? This is really confusing."
Good book despite the variations in performance. Also, the audio didn't have the same crisp quality as the initial 3 books. I heard that all this was due to a new director and company.
I can only echo what other have said. If you have been listening to the series, the change in pronunciation and character voices is disturbing. I don't know if I will be able to continue. I love the stories and have LOVED the narrator thus far, but now.... I am disappointed. I might just buy the book to read instead. it will take much longer since i have so much less time to just sit and read but at lease the voices in my head *chuckle* will be right! I wish they would re-do this one for those of us that have been devoted to the series and deserve a better more consistent performance.
Continuation of the story- those who improve their "character" and those who continue their terrible ways. The iron-born section was way, way too long and, in this book of little importance. I wanted to know what was going on with my favorites but there was nothing- no Dani, no Tyrion, no Bren, no John Snow, no Stanis. I am hoping the last book at least establishes relevance for all the content on the iron-born and gives updates on the others.
Jamie and Catelyn, Cersei, Sansa
Continuation of voices from previous performances. Aria sounded like an old irish man in this book. Catelyn went between Cate-lyn and Cat-lyn throughout. And suddenly Pa-tire became Peter. I think I got that little Robert was only called Robin by Sansa, but it was a little confusing.
yes, but I know there is.
Narrator needs consistency. At least listen to highlight of previous books for character voices and names.
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I put off listening to this because of the reviews. May I begin with a counter view on Roy's presentation. I thought it was excellent. It is not his fault that two of the female characters had similar sounding names and I believe confused some listeners.
I love George RR Martin, but this simply went on and on and on. I understand that the original book would have been two feet thick and challenged the large hard print edition of the Oxford English Dictionary. I live in hopes that the characters that I wanted to follow and the forward moving plot that I needed will be in the next book!
May Tyrian the Dwarf battle on. May Arianna find her wolf and rejoin her family. May John Snow become relevant again. May Bran and his crew return. May the bastard son rise from his blacksmith's hearth. May the dragons arrive. Seriously, nothing was resolved that I cared about. Not a single thing. Then again, it is George RR Martin... he might simply finish all my favorite characters off in the next book...
I wonder if I could have listened to the next and lived quite happily without this one? Still, as a fan, I followed my banner man into the fray. I just wish it hadn't been mired in dysentery and mud...
Rock on Roy. You're great! I've seen your name pass on the roll of actors for the HBO series. Which part is it? I'm off to check.