This fascinating look into Western Civilization by Niall Ferguson is certain to ruffle some feathers. It is bound to raise controversy. Ferguson asks the question that can’t be asked. The question that must never be asked in our modern world: Why did Western Civilization come to dominate the rest of the world in the last 500 years? After all, five hundred years ago a betting man would have looked at puny Europe and compared it with the powerful Moslem world and the vast Chinese realm and scoffed at the idea that the Europeans would have come to dominate. What caused this? The stock answer today is colonialism. That is of course nonsense. After all the Islamic world was built oni colonialism. China was a vast empire. Why were they not ascendant?
Ferguson comes up with the answer. Western Civilization developed six concept, what he calls “killer applications” that allowed it to grow and dominate. These “killer applications” are competition, science, democracy, medicine, consumerism, and the work ethic. He goes into great detail about each of these concepts, how they developed, and why the lack of these “killer applications” or their underuse lead to the other world powers drop at the same time that the West began to rise. There is some fascinating material here. I am sure that many will argue against Ferguson’s points, but the ability to debate and discus such concepts freely is itself a mark of the West.
One of the things that I like about this book is that it eschews any racial nonsense. The West did not become superior due to any superiority on the part of Western man. Rather it became superior because of it’s ideas. He shows that as nations begin to adopt these ideas they begin to grow. The ascendency in our own time of China is in many ways related to the slow acceptance of these ideas. This is an excellent book and deserves a reading.
I like this book much better than Ferguson's last book the Ascent of Money, it is much more readable and engaging. Well researched and full of history I'd never heard. Definately worth the read.
I thought this book would be more of the same as previous books in this genre such as Guns Germs and Steel and 1493. The theme is the same, but this book brings a lot of new information to the table.
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What a bizarre experience listening to this book was. By about 3/4 of the way through, I think it was just playing in the background while I thought about other stuff.
First of all, I was unaware of Niall Ferguson before I chose the book. My bad. I guess I'm too far outside the Conservative Movement subculture to be aware of its shining intellectual lights. The guy is a charlatan. He sounds like he knows what he's talking about but he really a blowhard. But hey, if you love him, get this book. If you've never heard of him, I suggest you check him out before sending him your money. You decide.
This next point is a little related to what I've already said, but, second, the book isn't really illuminating. It's sophomoric. These are the sorts of ideas you'd come up with in high school or college for why one band is better than another or why one sports team is going to kick another team's butt. You will not come away with this book with any deeper understanding of anything. He basically looks at history and tries to figure out what makes his team/band/nation/culture so much better than anyone else's and why it must have been a historical inevitability that he'd end up at the pinnacle of it all.
Finally, ... does he do this all the time? The author/reader switches constantly between an RP (standard Southeastern English) accent and a Scottish one. I can only figure he's Scottish and trying to pretend he's from London-Oxbridge, perhaps so people won't listen to what he's actually saying. His name looks Scottish. Why is he ashamed of being Scottish? (Slainte, Scotland!)
And if he's not even clever enough to maintain a standard accent while reading his own book, which I assume was his goal when he started using it, then is he really clever enough to take on the big issues of culture? Maybe the accent thing doesn't distract you. At first I thought it was funny and then it was distracting and then finally I just couldn't listen anymore.
So, was the author dumb? his accent foolish? his intellectual approach to his thesis insufficient? Who knows for you, but for me it all added up to a title I really wish I'd skipped over.
and am well-educated, but failed to get whatever "point" Ferguson was making here - just lots and lots (and lots!) of historical stories/anecdotes/facts for 14 hours. His reading wasn't a problem for me; although the sections where he read quoted passages in the speakers' accented English seemed weird at times, that did serve to set them off from the "story" itself.
If I had the choice again, I'd read (skim) the print version instead. I tried breaking it down to listening no more than an hour per day, and even that left me looking at the time-elapsed counter frequently.
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Civilization: The West and the Rest, by Niall Ferguson, is highly recommended as a do not read and waste your time. Yes, I know I am going against the predominant grain of highly recommended reviews by other readers. I just do not know what they saw in the publication to rate it so well. Maybe because he has Oxford, Harvard and Stanford in his résumé and is popular ever since he wrote Henry Kissinger's biography it is believed whatever he does is superlative. Well, in Civilization, he failed to make the grade as far as I am concerned.
This is not a Kenneth Clark analysis of fine art, rather this is an attempted explanation why national powers came into being, fell out of being and where we –Western Civilization- might stand someday. It is not an organized study but rather a Hodge podge of what Ferguson thinks he should talk about to prove his point that civilization is where 1) we have competition, 2) the sciences are advanced, 3) property rights are protected, 4) medicine advances, 5) we have a consumer society, and 6) the society is endowed with a positive work ethic – literally as per Ferguson – God Bless Protestantism. Perhaps his values for judgement are not without worth but his analysis is a bore as there is no exploration just his citing facts about his six criteria to show or demonstrate his six criteria were obviously present in all former and to come societies. Along the way he advises the USSR would have prevailed should we have had a nuclear war as its backward ways would mean they would better survive the limited state of the earth. That is the breath of his analysis in supporting his six factors.
Well I thought his six categories would be interesting to review with his insights. They may be very good items to consider in reviewing civilization, but as for their presentation in this book, they were not interesting. It was a struggle to get through the book although items five and six were more interesting than one through four. My advice find other readings.
When I drive, I read... uhm listen. I like SciFi, Fantasy, some Detective and Espionage novels and Religion. Now and then I will also listen to something else.
Niall Ferguson’s book “Civilization: The Six Killer Apps of Western Power” summarises itself in its title. The book’s organisation is simple straightforward and to-the-point. In his introduction, Ferguson states, that he wants “… to show that what distinguished the West from the Rest – the main springs of global power – were six identifiably novel complexes of instructions and associated ideas and behaviours.” He borrows from computer language cleverly calling these “complexes” “the six killer apps” that “allowed a minority of mankind originating on the western edge of Eurasia to dominate the world for the better part of 500 years.”
Ferguson then sets out to discuss the six “apps” methodically (one per chapter) and concludes with a final chapter asking if these “apps” are still needed? What about the Rest (the West’s rivals), will one of them supersede it? The killer apps that he discusses are: 1) Competition, 2) Science, 3) Property rights, 4) Medicine, 5) The consumer society and 6) The work ethic.
While simplifying the structure, the content that Ferguson relays are must less of a simplification. Here he keeps his listeners engaged by interesting quotes (usually juxtaposed to give two different takes on an “app”), facts, figures and cleverly thought-out phrases that make his conclusions memorable. Two of the most interesting phrases for me in the chapter on work ethic, are “God was love, as the bumper stickers said, after all. At one and the same time, America was both born again and porn again.” and “Now it’s not your kicks you get on Route 66; it’s your crucifix.” (Both phrases are here quoted without its proper context. Ferguson is discussing the Protestant Work Ethic that took root in Springfield in the United States of America.)
In short, Niall Ferguson brilliantly conveys his argument. Using choice language he makes a powerful argument which makes it easy to follow, especially if you are listening to the audio version of this work. Dazzling the listener with cleverly formulated phrases, he made it very difficult for me to discern his book critically (even though I live in a country where Mahatma Ghandi’s insights on government are often revered, because of its struggle sentiment.) It is just so well written!
While the printed version of this book might be illustrated with maps, graphs or photos, you gain enormously in the audio version in that Niall Ferguson reads his work himself. Unexpectedly he does a jolly good job of it. Often authors are not the best narrators of their books. One thing that stood out was how he used different voices and accents to deal with the numerous quotes he made in the book. By doing so, he kept my attention and where I might start to opt out, his voice caught it again.
If you consider listening to it, I would advise to let Ferguson’s prose, facts and insights guide you while his voice mesmerise you. He is after all the Laurence A. Tisch Professor of History at Harvard University. It is indeed a ‘tour de force’ that vindicates the West’s colonial ambitions only to the extent necessary while being blunt about its atrocities! This is an excellent way in enlivening history and giving it a practical application. This book is not only interesting, it is one of those titles that sets the stage for further discussion on the role of the West and the Rest in our contemporary global society.
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Say what you will about Ferguson, but you're never going to get the Cliff's Notes version of history from him. Agree or disagree, he manages to come at his history from a fresh, at least to me, perspective on things.
To be honest, I found some of his assertions to be hopelessly... um... unlikely/naive/doctrinaire, but overall, he offered me a new way to look at world history, in particular with respect to the ascendancy of the west, and fresh ideas are always a good thing.
The entire book seems to build to a rather predictable point, but in the end, it's more of the culmination of his arguments, and probably arguments that should at least be considered.
No, I was disappointed by this work.
Unlike "The Ascent of Money," the other work of Niall's I have read/ listened to, this work, "Civilization," seems to be more about promoting a personal agenda than facts. This is disconcerting to me, as now I'm not sure that "Money" is reputable material, either.
I have listened to / read "The Ascent of Money," written by Niall and narrated by Simon Pebble (who did an excellent job). I would recommend that work over this, however, I am concerned in regard to "Money's" validity, now, after taking in "Civilization."
This book could not be made into a movie, perhaps a documentary.
Niall's tangent about Weber's hypothesized "protestant work ethic" is far too drawn out and unnecessary as well as only weakly supportable at best. He admits this, himself, at the beginning of the rant. Something was very odd about this reading, too. I'm not sure if it was Niall doing all the narrating, but quotes are read in very poor mock accents. This detracts from the content.
Perhaps better read than heard, this lengthy narrative is overly accented - with a distinctly British bias. The author links his interesting insights and anecdotes but strains in the end to develop a unifying conclusion.
insightful, unusual, stimulating
doesn't get bogged down
no - but perfect for falling asleep
Really enjoyable bedtime listen - lulls me to sleep in an informative way.