Entertaining and insightful perspective on the pre-Henry VIII story but unlikable heroine who fails to evoke mug sympathy. Look forward to reading about Elisabeth Woodville's marriage to Henry VII.
yes cuz not have the patient to read
The White Queen
the York Princess staying with the red Queen
the Red Queen's 2nd husband, Stratford. He was smart, kind, practical and humane, oh and decent
read the white queen, it was good to compare the two queens. Like the White Queen better, both the book and the character.
The main characters unbelievable faith ,every turn was a sign including the eclipse of the sun was a sign from Her God that Henry would become the King.I wanted to shake her at times but she is very reminiscent of late night TV of the arrogance of the Born Again Christains have today,it seems they never went away.
I do t know as this is my first historical drama novel
When she met Henry Tudor after hearing about Richards death and her companion congratulated her and she rebuked her and told her to call her Margaret Regina I have just finished the Kingmakers dtr so I may have got that wrong one was in the church and one was on the battle field after Richards defeat.
Absolutely it would be good.if they had more of Henry assuming his role and what happened to Margaret and to him.i believe she died soon after he became king.It would be interesting to find out what happened to the White Queen and her elizabeth did marry Henry Vii just as she dreamed,.
I know phillipa Gregory can do what she wants with her novels but I was really surprised how many small and big facts were different in all three books that went into making the white queen Mini series.if I had the chance of a redo I would especially make amends with the actual facts.Just my simple and honest opinion.
Not sure - writing is good, but I find myself HATING the protagonist and weary of her. The only reason I am continuing is because I don't want to miss details that will be important to the other Cousins War books...hoping the next few are better...
Tell it from someone else's point of view. Margaret is annoying, and I just don't relate to or care about her. In fact, I find myself wishing her dead. Most unlike my enjoyment of Jacquetta's story. In fact the best part of the book so far was the bit told from Stafford's POV!
Lisette Lecat. My enjoyment of this book was not improved by the fact I am not enjoying Bianca Amato's narration. I find her voice and articulation difficult to understand at times.
I like the take on the historical characters and their interactions. The story is interesting, I just so hate hearing it from Margaret's foolish, self-centered POV. If her childish selfishness is the point of this book, I wish Ms. gregory had been able to accomplish that understanding using another literary tool. It's tough to enjoy a book when you HATE the stupid, stupid protagonist.
I probably would, I liked The White Queen and The Other Boleyn Girl. This book features a main character who is difficult to like or root for.
The main character, Margaret, whines, complains, connives, and conspires to get her son on the throne. She just isn't very likeable.
The narrator was okay.
I like historical fiction and liked the first book in the series. This one left me cold. I couldn't wait for it to end.
Yes. I am certain now that when I am done with the series, I will listen to it all over again. I have never had an interest in royalty of any era but The White Queen sparked my interest. I know this is fictional history but details of how people thought and lived during that era are fascinating.
Margaret Beaufort was a compelling character in The White Queen, easily disliked and villianous. Still compelling, The Red Queen provided so much insight into her character, insight that made her a more sympathetic figure than first revealed in The White Queen. In The White Queen, she was simply a religious zealot with a singular driving mission to make her son the king at all costs. She saw God's hand and blessings all along the way. She would ask God to do something highly unlikely and, when it didn't happen, she would see this as evidence of God's blessings and assurances of her son's destiny...and hers. In The Red Queen, she remains a religious zealot but her history is explained. I suspect when I listen to the Lady of the Rivers, the next installment, there will be further clarity of other characters.
The White Queen. The narration was excellent in both performances.
I think the fact that "Margaret R" was the grandmother of Henry VIII is interesting. The first two books of the series do not go that far in history and don't mention this and I'm not sure I would have them do so. However, the character of Margaret Regina as portrayed, her attitude and absolute belief in her son's destiny and God's role, lends itself to understanding how someone like Henry VIII could come to be the man he became.
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Admittedly, this was wonderful as far as bringing history to life.
But the main character was so unappealing, that it was not as enjoyable as I had hoped. Philippa's writing style is also a bit trying from time to time.
I'm sure that's part of the message - the fanaticism of this character - but it came off as tired and gratuitous.
I loved other books in this series better, but I do love the glimpse into this side of the whole story.
i feel the need to write a review for this because it has mostly negative feedback. i am not a religious person, in saying so, i understood that the religion in this book was based around the character's obsession with it. i thought it added to her persona and therefore it works. it did not bother me at all.
jasper and margaret's embrace in whales prior to his exile.
it did not. i did enjoy the psychological aspect of it.
great book if given a chance.
I discovered the joy of audiobooks several years ago when I got a job which is a 45 min drive one way. It continued to keep me mostly sane.
I like a lot of what Gregory writes and I have really enjoyed the series, The Cousins War. The Red Queen answers many questions about Henry VII, his origins and his fight to take the crown of England. I found all of this very interesting and of course the narration is perfect.
Margaret Beaufort, the mother of Henry VII was single minded to the point of madness. Every move she made, every thought she had was to put her son on the thrown. What is hard to stomach is the hypocrisy in her belief that she was doing God's will and of course God's will always agreed with hers. She is so blind to everything but what she perceives as God's/her will, that she never sees her hypocrisy and her own sin. Her pride and her need to be recognized as "My Lady, the King's Mother" no matter who it hurts or what havoc it creates is truly breathtaking.
It makes her that rare main character that it is nearly impossible to like or sympathize with. It is a tribute to Phillipa Gregory that the story is still fascinating and very entertaining. Gregory does an immense amount of research and my own research agrees with much of hers. Many of the royal traditions in England today are a direct result of Margaret Beaufort's edicts in order to make her son's reign more legitimate than any other at that time. I highly recommend the book, but don't expect to love the main character.
This is the first book ever in which I not only root for the main character, I found myself wishing her ill. Unfortunately she follows you through out the series and only gets worse with the power she manages to get. To my surprise there were times I would have liked to admire Margaret's drive for her son to become King however her tendency for hateful jealousy and overall bitterness is too much to take more often than not. She was so awful that I almost couldn't finish listening but then again I'm sure Philippa Gregory didn't write this story expecting to make Margaret a heroine. Just proving once again what a passionate writer Ms. Gregory is. I won't say this book is a must for the series reader, since it's not an easy listening book, but one does get the whole experience with it.