I am a 65-year-old psychologist, married for 25 years, with two sons who are 25 and 22. I love reviewing the books and the feedback I get.
Its length! Can I say that again? Are you really in the mood for six solid hours of courtroom drama? I had a hard time with it. Certainly Mr. Turow and his editors don't care a fig about how I feel here, but something tells me that I have some company here. Ir's just too damn long! The plot is very clever, the writing is smooth and masterful, the narrator does a fine job, but even given all these, they lost me somewhere in the third hour of courtroom back and forth. And, I am interested in the law to begin with. I am a psychologist who has worked (some of my time) with lawyers and judges, and the issues addressed there still interest me. However, I have made my point. As I have said previously, brevity is the soul of wit.
Probably not. I can't see him cutting down the length of his books, as this is the standard length of a novel now. Nonetheless, someone some day (I have a niece in the publishing business; I'll call her) will take a risk and fiddle with this tradition. Mr. Turow does not seem like a fiddler. The world of law is the highest upholder of conventionalism in our society.
They did. I have no complaints about either of them. Mr. Hermann is a well-known actor, and his stage presence, so to speak, is considerable. I have not heard of Ms. Cassidy before, but she, too has a very pleasant voice, very easy to listen to.
I have to say no here. Over twelve hours, most of it spent in a dusty courtroom...Even though the plot is really extremely clever, a bit soap-opera-ish, but still you do want to find out if the judge really did murder his wife. And also who offed Carolyn Polhemus twenty years ago. It's just the mind-numbing details, and the trivia of what gets dissected to no end in a trial (I do know whereof I speak; testifying in a trial makes it clear to you that trials are BORING). It is well-nigh impossible to keep up the suspense over such a long time. I will admit that The Testament, Polar Star, and The Ice Limit are all books that kept me totally involved through the ends, but those three are true masterworks. You just don't find many of those. I will keep looking.
I think I saw another review in which the reviewer said that the Mom did the killing, although I am sure he/she meant the first killing, of Carolyn Polhemus, out of sheer enraged jealousy. She surely didn't kill herself. Or did she?????
The sequel is not as suspenseful but agreat ending as to what happened to some of the Presumed Innocent characters. I enjoyed it.
What a nicely-crafted book. I found myself marveling at how well-written and researched it was. A really good, enthralling read.
Don't you just love a great story well told?
Don't expect ENTIRELY different characters or plot line. I strongly recommend the original book FIRST.
"Innocent" DID keep ME wondering, until the very end "who-done-it." (I'm a terrible detective.)
As for courtroom drama: 1) At least a HALF of the the book is PURE courtroom or the "behind the scenes".
2) Turrow WAS a high ranking attorney thus his keen observations of courtroom behavior ring true and are *precisely* what we courtroom drama lovers crave.
The gripe: "Too much 'side story'" begs the question, doesn't a novel NEED developed characters? (Esp. other possible murderers?)
My ONE beef (I RARELY complain about narrators) is that while EVERYONE ELSE sounds fine and identifiable, there is NO change in tone one BIT (that I can hear) for "the son" which leads to confusion with the father (if not listening closely for journal type headings.) I think the director expected a SON should SOUND just like his dad (ALL voices are very distinct, I've never heard a kid sound JUST like his older father.) So just THAT narration was poorly directed. Still, you get over it (Just listen for the journal type notes on who is talking now).
The editing (no mouth sounds) is great.
While a 2nd female narrator is advertised, she gets minimal speaking time compared to the male voice.
Many nasty posts likely by other book companies hoping to cause, uh... "reasonable doubt", which is why they come out quickly after the book is released and are brief as they have other books to slam at work). THEY seldom explain WHAT was SO bad! Others just dislike a book but they tend say WHY. No accounting for taste.. "Esp. bad taste" - a cute rejoinder as it can cut BOTH ways.)
Rely on the STARS given (since most don't WRITE reviews) AND then the more thorough reviews.
Dept Q, Harry Hole... where are you?
Presumed Innocent remains the best mystery I've ever read. I never figured out who the killer was until the last pages, and when I did, it all made sense. This book is not as spellbinding , but it works. And once again, you don't understand what really happened until the end. Its weakness for me was the severely flawed characters. I did not care for this Rusty Savage, though Molto was a pleasant surprise.
Say something about yourself!
Struggled to find the son likeable/believable. Bit of a dunce in fact. Will be interesting to see if Turow continues with a Rusty Sabich follow up.
Yes, Turow has an eye for detail but only the most boring, superficial minutia. Page after page where nothing happens, no plot is advanced, story-lines repeat. And Hermann is a monotoned snooze. Perhaps Hermann should lay off the beta blockers before he reads.
Don't bother, even if you always wondered about Turow, and you read the glowing reviews you will come away feeling cheated. There is nothing of depth to say as there is no depth to be found in this listen.
This is a sequel to “Presumed Innocent” of which I thoroughly enjoyed listening to on audible. I looked forward to reading the second book, “Innocent”, and I was not disappointed. It was a great courtroom legal thriller focusing on the trial and the views of the different characters. Good characterization too.
If you are a reader that enjoys legal thrillers, I highly recommend this story. It is great storytelling, plus the narrators, Edward Hermann and Orlagh Cassidy, did an excellent job!
Be sure to read the first book in the series if at all possible.
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Could not put it down - very entertaining, satisfying, and always a surprising turn. Not just a story, but a crafted tale.
Life long fan of the mystery story. I like books where something actually happens, so history and biography are favorites of mine also. I also think that even good books are improved tremendously when an actor performs the narration.
Hours and hours of Rusty and Ana analyzing the meaning of love and and how life turns out the way it does. I wanted a legal thriller -- instead I got to listen in on therapy!
Turow's first novel - Presumed Innocent - is a wonderful, tight, well written thriller -- sadly, Turow has not been able to continue at this level of authorship.
The second star is for top notch narration by Edward Hermann.