It took me awhile to get "into" these characters. There were times I felt like I had stumbeled into The Good,The Bad and The Ugly. I found the treatment of the freshmen very disturbing,after all these are boys not men and this is supposed to be a military school/college not a branch of the Armed Services. The hazing seemed more like cruelty for its own sake and not to build minds, bodies nor team work. And in the end were the friends of The Room really a bonded brotherhood? You decide! Mr Miller did a fantastic job with the narration. At times, he made me feel I was there;a silent, invisable witness.
Yes. This is the kind of book you wish you could read for the first time again and again. The story is a classic and the narration is superb.
My personal favorite character in the story is Mark: Ever-loyal, no-nonsense, and a buoyant personality in the core protagonists.
I thought the portrayal of all the main characters was fantastic; the Bear, Mark, Pig, Will, Tradd. Dan Miller did a great job of distinguishing each character and giving them consistent and emotive expression. As much as I love to physically read great books like this, having a consistent and well acted narration makes this book come alive in audio format.
Pig is, I believe, designed to be most memorable. It's too easy to give away plot points, so I wont go in to detail why.
Having read Prince of Tides first, I was familiar with the writing style and was excited to read this book next. I had seen the PoT movie many years ago and was not surprised by the climax nor particularly enthralled with the story. My girlfriend suggested that PoT was aimed more at women and that I read this book next as it was geared more towards the male audience. I would have read this book regardless, because I enjoyed the story telling and I think the writting is excellent. This has become a new favorite story of mine and intend to push it on some of my friends (especially for those that are pick about what they read).
The book provides an insider's view of a very secretive environment, one I knew nothing about. While strong friendships are forged, the cadets endure horrific acts of torture during their hazing period. The writing is so good, and the characters are so beautifull developed, that despite portions that were difficult to hear, I could not stop listening. The ironic juxtapostion of this brutal enclave with the gentility of Charleston, S.C. makes the whole story all the more fascinating. I reommend it highly.
The narrator was truly flawless. His ability to change inflections and tone for each character made it easy to know which one was speaking. He brought life to the drama on the page.
Lords of Discipline by Pat Conroy is loosely (or actually not so loosely) based on Conroy's experiences at the Citadel, a military college in Charleston, SC. As in most of his books, the location of the story becomes one of the characters of his book, in this case actually two characters--The Institute (playing the role of the Citadel) and Charleston (playing the role of Charleston). Playing the role of mother, father, and siblings are The Bear (commandant of the Institue), Abigail (Charlestonian Society woman and Tradds' mother) and his three roommates, Tradd, Pig, and Mark.
Once again, Conroy's writing is poetic--one is transported in time and space to the mid 1960's Charleston. He had a story to tell, that of the all-encompassing "system" to either break or strengthen freshman (plebes). Conroy has a love/hate relationship with the school... he "wears the ring" and nothing will change that fact. But he also is proud of his ability to manipulate the system in such a way that he has not allowed it to destroy his moral fabric. The resemblance to a child growing up in an abusive family is obvious... one can point to success stories as well as horrorifying tales of adult abusers as products of highly dysfunctional families. As is often the case, that which keeps us sane is our connection with others we can trust. And ultimately, trust is what this book is about.
I listened to this book through a download from Audible.com. The Prince of Tides still remains my alltime favorite Pat Conroy, in print or audibly (but not the movie which was dreadful). I would rank Lords of Discipline third (after The Great Santini and above South of Broad). Enjoy!
This book ranks among the best of the books I've heard.
My favorite scene is the dramatic revelation at the house in the woods where the cadet torture takes place.
Dan John Miller was the perfect voice for these characters. His accent and talent are incredible, but I was surprised at how many words he mispronounced. It seems someone in the editing booth could have helped with this.
I am retired. Hospital pharmacist for 40 years prior. Hobby-Photography and microscopes.
At the top
When Pig killed himself
The voice changes
Yes, but I didn't
Why anyone would want to go through the freshman year at the Citadel is a mystery.
Thank God some do.
Yes. I felt my emojions like I have not done so i a long time in a book.It aslo introduced you to worlds that you did not personally know, but yuou knedw existed. I saw small parts of this groups as I was tested for survfiaval training by being hit in the nose till it bled and then curled to be left in a little dog house in the sun. Then had my hand tied and graged through the camp as an example to fellow navel personal who would not play the games their way. All it took wa a Name rank and serial number to get moved up/ To eat we had to smash through the mrines. I was not that hugry.When we got to Viet Nam, I was left in charge of my crew and had a good life. I did feel emotions as theindividuals went through their individual triumps, which often lead to worse tha imagined, but lwft the men fighting a team.Yes I felt some real emothions, for myself and for those who can say,
The train rides, the trips to roof, the comraderie for good and wrong reasons.
He made it happen. I could not have read this book with the strength tha I listedned to it with.A lot of cussing and yelling was hard to take, but it made you listen to the real world. I would have read it at half the volume.
Any of them I could have got to speak the truth about where they wee coming from at the time.
A must rea for any youn person consideringthe military. I realize it is not that way today, the the awaeness that it might , and the respect that it could is worth it. I saw a 1st Class try to ship me our on my wdding day, so save me from getting married. I saw the tragedies of war, and I saw the bonds of my fellow men. This book sort of brough me back to all of those and more.
What I liked most about this book is that it is not a formula story. The story does not follow a set pattern where every trail leads to the predictable end. I loved the depth of the characters and found myself drawn into this book more than I had anticipated.
Pat Conroy's rich prose wonderfully describes life as a cadet at the Citadel with several intricate mysteries with surprising endings as a bonus. A must read for Conroy fans!
Fantastic book, and a fantastic first listen on Audible. I was kind of skeptical about how I'd take to audiobooks, but I found myself spellbound--looking for reasons to keep listening. Miller does an excellent job of differentiating characters with his voice, and he seems the perfect choice to portray narrator Will McLean. Highly recommended.