This book was very longwinded. I enjoyed most of it but it really dragged on at times. I am looking at the Ender series as a whole and I suggest listening to the first three. The story is great it just takes so long to get there. Still, I will listen to the last book in the series because Ender is a very good story.
Everyone who wrote that this book is long-winded and not nearly as good as Ender's Game, they weren't lying. It's not worth the read. I loved Ender's Game, liked Speaker for the Dead and, for the most part, didn't link Xenocide. My advice, go out on a high note and stop at Ender's Game (though I haven't read any of the Shadow series)
While "Ender's game" was excellent reading and "Speakr for the Dead" was still fairly good one Xenoside falls apart quickly. This book makes it hands down to top 10 of most boring books I have ever read/listened. I think I am now scared away from Orson Scott Card for good. Stick to first 2 books and unless you find something charming of his style don't bother with rest of it.
Hi my name is Marty, Im book worm from Portland Oregon. I work graveyard shifts and listen to books while I work and read comics in the day
All of the deep complexity of Ender and his family seems to have been lost in this book. I like seeing whats going on with the Hive queen and the piggies but the chapters with Qing-Jao are honestly just painful. All of the intellectual quandaries and debates that the first two books seem to have been replaced by a lexicon of logical fallacies that scott card seems to be trying to push as some higher moral standard that just falls short and belittles the growth and intelligence of his characters from the first two books.
I would list specifics however I do not wish to spoil any thing for people. This book has me very nervous for the rest of the series, and I may not finish the series if the books keep going this direction.
With that being said, The narration as usual is AAA+ Stefan Rudnicki is perhaps one of my favorite narrators and the rest of the cast were great as well.
I loved Enders game and Speaker for the dead, I just hope the books after Xenocide are better
i'm logging in to write this review solely to complain about the narrators' asian accents. it's not a PC thing - they were just horrible. especially the woman who (mostly) did wang mu's voice. i don't know who gave that narrator positive feedback when she was developing that accent, but it's just awful.
i'm actually a fan of ethnic accents in audiobooks, when they're done well. it adds texture to the reading. that didn't happen here. the use of an overblown poorly-wrought caricature to emote and speak seriously...or for any reason, really, was a major detractor to this audio book. i actually thought the story was awesome, and i really appreciated the deep ontological thinking that card clearly invested in this series. but i really cringed every time that woman started talking again in that chinese accent.
i guess i'd still have to say it's worth buying this, just for the actual writing, but if you can read it instead, do so!
I think Orson Scott Card saw success with the first two books and tried to ride the wave with this one, and failed. I had no idea that it was the first half of the 3rd book. It was wordy and long winded, but very little happened plot-wise.
Ender's Game was great, Speaker for the Dead was good, but this was bad.
Three of the main characters are Chinese, so the narrators used various forms of broken Chinese English that was painful to listen to. It was almost laughable, and potentially borderline racist. It was like a SNL skit with someone faking a Chinese accent. awful.
This book was a waste of my time. Maybe, if you want to follow the Ender series, skip this book and go straight to the fourth book.
This is the end for me in the series of Ender. The social, political, and religious context of the books that follow Ender's Game have moved too far away from what made Ender's Game such a wonderful read. This book was long and predictable. It was a good story, but at the end I was not drawn to quickly pick up the next book in the series. The way the story ended, one would think that I should be. I doubt there will be any movie rights sold for any books beyond Ender's Game.
Maybe, perhaps,Xenocide worked well keeping me interested in Ender Wiggins. But Xenocide didn't close the story line. It abruptly ended. To find the conclusion, you had to read the next book in the series. Perhaps I don't read enough series books to know that's how the story written works. Others I've read ended the current story plot. Yet there were loose ends left for exploration.
Move to a different author
Orson Scott Card is an exceptional author. I read several Tails of Alvan Maker too. Both story's seem to get very strange after a few books.
This book is set in the Enderverse, but the actual story-line is secondary to the philosophical musings and debates presented by Orson Scott Card. He introduces an interesting new world and set of characters to supplement the story, but it still comes secondary to the philosophy.
Yes, but probably not in continuation of this series. He has interesting story concepts, but the farther along his books have gotten from "Ender's Game" the less the books have to do with the actual story or characters. I am interested in listening to "Ender's Shadow" since it is supposed to be a parallel story to "Ender's Game."
More so than not, but I likely won't listen to it again.
First, I must say this is a beautiful story, however Card's view of chinese culture is unrefined. His view seems filtered through the lens of old kung fu movies and western culture.
I believe Card's view could be overlooked, but the accents placed on the chinese characters is horrible. If Chinese are speaking chinese to eachother, why did they sound like horrible imitations speaking english. Great book if you are not offended.