Near the top.
Its in a class all by itself.
Less momotone and more inflection.
What happens when one turns family into a business.
Great listen for all who seek to know the reason the church seems so disconnected from her roots.
This book is well worth the time to listen to if you have ever had your doubts about how today's "churches" are doing things.
I believe most of what this book is trying to say, because it is found in the New Testament.. However, I cannot recommend this book to anyone since it is deeply flawed in authority, and therefore ~40% flawed in conclusion. By using the tradition of men, the Frank Viola sets aside church practices calling them “tradition of men”, only briefly mentioning the Bible in passing. This is hypocrisy. Just because the ancient Greeks preached does not mean that preaching is fundamentally pagan. It must be examined scripturally.
This is the approach in the book:
1. Identify a church practice that the authors think is unbiblical
2. Find a place in history that someone else practiced it.
3. Declare it to be pagan, and throw out both the baby and the bathwater.
4. WHERE IS THE BIBLICAL EXAMINATION OF THE PRACTICE? It is missing.
The thesis of the book is that the institutionalized church is not Biblical. Viola is correct on about 60% of his claims such as the unbiblical nature of the clergy-laity division, the pew-pulpit syndrome, ordination, etc. These are not found in the New Testament. However preaching, offices of elder and deacon, teaching doctrine are all in the New Testament in many large passages as major themes. 60% was a D- in class. This book, despite some great content, gets a D- in my assessment.
Additionally, the book is written with an overtone of complaining. The author has a model church in his own mind that he is pushing. In the last chapters, Viola essentially says that Bible readers cannot really understand the Bible as published because the order of the books and the chapter and verse references disrupt the message. This is close to saying that he alone is able to accurately interpret the Bible because he has the private expertise. He goes on to say that he is a revolutionary. We do need Biblical reform, but it must be Biblical.
I appeal to Frank Viola to rewrite this book, and get great truth out to the readers. But use the Bible as the authority. There are many great truths you are proclaiming. However, scrap your own mental model, examine each tradition thoroughly with the Word of God and then draw conclusions. Then point out the historical roots on those things that fail the test of the Bible. The results will be different, and it will have true authority.
This book will turn your traditional thinking on the church upside down. Read it if you would like to take the red pill and see how deep the rabbit hole is!
Pagan Christianity remake and mold religion completely aside from Christianity. Beware. Read the Word. Believe Word. Live the Word.not men's philosophies.
The performance of this book was excellent and engaging. The content superb. This book is so important because it calls us to change everything that lays right before our eyes. It's calling us back to The Word.
I'm still trying to realize the magnitude of our deviation of something that many of us hold the dear...called "our church"
. It utterly just makes too much sense to ignore.
After buying the physical edition of this book. I found that it included many footnotes. Of the 10 core chapters there was anywhere from 50 to 200 footnotes per chapter, with references and clarifications substantiating the claims being proposed. There's also a "Delving Deeper" section at the end of each chapter with rhetorical questions answered by the author, these had even more answers and scriptural references. The audible version is definitely more convenient but not the complete work. If you find this book a thought-provoking reference I would recommend purchasing it for your shelf as well
This right here is one of the few books you need to read along with the Bible. Nothing will impact your Christian life more than the truth in this book combined with the must read follow up book "Reimagining Church". Save Bible College for later - start here.
Mr. Middle Earth
beware the message in this book. the authors make countless sloppy overgeneralizations and pass it off as sound history. what this book presents as its message is radical but it is not wrong simply for being radical the message is wrong and dangerous because it simply presents false and misleading information regarding the history of Christianity and its doctrines and practices. for those of you interested in real church history read Jaroslav Pelikan history of Christian doctrine and Philip Schaff multiple volume history of the church.