This book started with an excellent anthropological view of the gradual change of gods over time. Then it became a book on Game theory, and a very round about justification with LOTS of hand waiving explanations on why it is okay to still maintain your current religion. It stopped being about evolution of the idea of gods and became why it is okay to keep the same traditional religion. After the countless time some game theory term was mentioned within a five minute segment, I simply stopped listening. Perhaps it gets back on track, in the third segment, and perhaps some day I will start with the third segment and check. Not likely though.
Enjoy the beginning.
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Okay, I'll admit it. I bought this book because it was ON SALE! I ran through my credits kind of fast this year, and filled up the void with some interesting sounding stuff. Was I surprised! This book is a gem! This guy, Robert Wright, had a great idea, to approach the idea of how religions have evolved in human culture. He focused on the three Abrahamic faiths -- Jewish, Christian and Muslim -- going back to the dawn of recorded history, about 30,000 years ago and gave lucid and factual arguments for how religion came into being.
Let me say this, Mr. Wright is neither trying to proselytize or alienate the reader. He simply reports his research and allows you to draw your own conclusion. He argues both for and against the topic, which is really great. In the end, it is a very "thought-provoking" (how many times have you read that in these reviews?) piece on the reasons behind what we believe in. I came away with the opinion that the author wanted to shed light on how religious beliefs began and how they changed and why religion may be important to most people on the planet.
For a long time now I have questioned the existence of a god, as defined by the Abrahamic faiths. I have read several versions of the Bible, and at the start, found it difficult to believe some of the stuff that was in there. But I am a spiritual person, and cannot discount a divine intelligence in this universe. I'm just not sure that the god that the religions are touting is the god for me.
This book has given me insight to the God that I want to believe in, one that coexists grandly with the scientific discoveries that we are making every day about this world, our universe and everything in it. Well done, Robert Wright.
The one thing I did have a problem with was the non-zero-sum concept. I have just learned that the author penned a previous book that explained all that, but I hadn't read it. I think he should have recapped a little on the subject before he just started referring to it. Now I shall have to read the other book and possibly reread the Evolution of God book again. Psst! I have listened to this book three times already, and never got tired or bored.
Provides a center reading and view point for the discussion of religion among the secular. Could be on a par with William James and The Varieties of Religious Experience. Makes me want to learn about Philo of Alexandria and the divine logos. I first encountered the distinction between personal and social salvation in this book, which appears to me to be a useful way to organize some important religious ideas.
A direct question for theists in this book is the basis for their singular conception of god and a historical weight of evidence showing gradual development of a singular conception as opposed to an instantaneous revelation and change. A silent question for theists in this book is the basis of a singular conception of the divine living in a world which on the surface is a plurality of concepts and cultures. Perfection is conceivable in many forms... perfect circles, perfect squares, perfection could come in as many forms as can adapt to different niches, and in the exciting discovery of new niches leading to new forms.
Another step for a constructive engagement on this profound subject.
This is not an easy audio book to digest. I've replayed a more than a few parts to try to suck in all the details. But the research put into this book is fantastic. I do feel as if I am getting a much broader understanding of western religion and it's evolution. If you want to put in the effort, you will be rewarded at the end with a deeper insight into modern religion.
Extremely well researched, reasoned, and fair. For anyone who wants a materialistic explanation of religion via a detailed investigation of the specific contexts that led to conflicting ideologies, THIS IS YOUR BOOK. Of course, I really would like to know what the real scholars think of all of the claims and explanations. So far, I haven't found anything yet.
This is one of my favorite books of the year. A great listen, filled with provocative and piercing analysis. It made me smarter and kept me entertained. Very, very, very well done.
I come from a Non-Denominational Evangelical Christian background (yeah, i helped vote him in, sorry) and I was a Biology major in college. I originally majored in Biology to better understand Evolutionary Theory so that I could help debunk it and enlighten those blinded by it and save them for Jesus. What I found was that though the theory of Evolution is not provable beyond a bible thumpers shadow of a doubt, it is a very good scientific theory and its the best we got in terms of thinking concretely and logically. Taking those same principles, Mr. Wright applies them to how the thought of god could have evolved very naturally with the rise of civilization. He has very very good evidence and solid theories to back up this idea of his. It was a life changing and challenging read. As a Christian, it totally ripped my faith apart and left me feeling empty inside. Since I was about 16-17yrs old my self-worth and my confidence in myself (which I had for years felt it to be very solid and rewarding) was based solely on the existence of God. This book really challenged me on this issue and after listening to it, I went through a very dark time trying to work though the different issues that he placed before me in his writings. Part of me had wished that I had not listened to this book, but an other part of me was glad that this challenge was given to me because the thought of believing something and identifying with something which was false was very unappealing to me, rather discussed me and brought in thoughts of suicide and apathy. Through much time, thought, and what at first felt like empty emotionally draining hurtful prayer I was able to comeback to a Christian faith, but it is definitely not the same one I had before. I cannot say that this book was the only instrument in this process that I went through but it was definitely the heavy weight that broke the camel's back more than the straw. If your a zealous neo-Darwin atheist, you'll love this book. ;)
This book talks about so much, and there is plenty of intellectual meat for anyone with an ravenous desire for interesting and stimulating dialogues about reconciling the irrationality of the religious worldview with the rationality of the scientific worldview. But do not not think this is just about book of philosophical pondering, it is heavily reliant on historical fact and tells the story of the modern monotheistic god's birth with clarity and attention to detail.
The author shows us the intrinsically human forces that shape our religion and define our moral truth. He shows us where religion came from, where it is now, and it where it will have to go in order to be compatible with current scientific knowledge.
I would like to see Dawkins read this book and think more deeply about his superficial arguments in "The God Delusion."
This book was extremely interesting, and enlightening, but was definitely a lecture. I normally listen to books during my commute (about 1 hour 15 min each way), and go for entertainment. I figured that I would give this a try. It was interesting enough to keep my interest, but didn't help shorten the commute at all. Kind of felt like listening to a good lecture in college, but not something I would listen to normally on my "free" time